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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

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    The DailyKos post of Media Matters post involved a conversation that occurred shortly after the killing, and before any facts were known. Geeze, can these Progressive Machine flugelhorns get any more laughable?

    As the tens of thousands of victims of illegal aliens can testify, Trump was 100% accurate in his statement. Why not come to Southern California and see for yourself. Perhaps your vantage point in the Northeast allows you to stay away from the truth.
    Yeah there's no immigrants in the Northeast. It's lilly white here. LOL

    psssssst. My neighbors are Mexican. Cross the street there's a woman from Ireland, her neighbors are from Greece. Italians kitty corner from them. Germans, Poles and all the rest are neighbors too. It's a regular UN here, always has been. But yeah I don't know what the hell is going on.

    Now I'm sure you are going to say you are only talking about illegal immigrants. There's plenty of them here too. And I agree something needs to be done, it's a mess. But you Cons got to take the partisan, everything is Obama and the Dems fault glasses off and realize the GOP is just as guilty. They had many, many chances to fix the mess, but they don't. A couple days ago I posted an example of even in Texas, where they want to pass bills that have tough penalties for employers who hire illegals, but they back off because as one GOP politician in TX said, if they don't pass the bill with exceptions a large portition of Tx. population would end up in jail.

    Instead of just nodding blindly when GOP politicians talk about immigration, hold their feet to the fire. Ask them why in the past they did nothing. Ask them if the will buck their business donors who like and want cheap labor immigrants.
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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Yeah there's no immigrants in the Northeast. It's lilly white here. LOL

    psssssst. My neighbors are Mexican. Cross the street there's a woman from Ireland, her neighbors are from Greece. Italians kitty corner from them. Germans, Poles and all the rest are neighbors too. It's a regular UN here, always has been. But yeah I don't know what the hell is going on.

    Now I'm sure you are going to say you are only talking about illegal immigrants. There's plenty of them here too. And I agree something needs to be done, it's a mess. But you Cons got to take the partisan, everything is Obama and the Dems fault glasses off and realize the GOP is just as guilty. They had many, many chances to fix the mess, but they don't. A couple days ago I posted an example of even in Texas, where they want to pass bills that have tough penalties for employers who hire illegals, but they back off because as one GOP politician in TX said, if they don't pass the bill with exceptions a large portition of Tx. population would end up in jail.

    Instead of just nodding blindly when GOP politicians talk about immigration, hold their feet to the fire. Ask them why in the past they did nothing. Ask them if the will buck their business donors who like and want cheap labor immigrants.

    I live in an area (i Will not disclose too much), in Berks County Pa.
    google that as you choose

    I live in a semi-detached (so I have a direct neighbor)

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    4 generation deep , mixed euro ancestrty "white"

    the house on the other side is
    4th,5th, and 6th generation descendents of freed slaves

    across the street is
    nascar fans.... honestly cant figure anything else out, they're gone at 4 AM, and back at 12-1AM .
    {while I'm in bed}


    for a "rural" "white" county, we have a very diverse subdivision.

    Though not "neighbors",
    in the past 24 months, a Latino family, and a Chinese family have moved in as well



    Honestly, not that we do a A LOT, but the community spirit has never been louder, or more
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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    The headline would be honest if it was "GOP leaders fear Trump to force them to take an actual stand."
    I voted Trump. Thanks Wikileaks.

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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    A hint that the RNC's appeasement of Trump's candidacy out of fear of a third party run may not spare the Republican Party from an independent Trump candidacy should Trump lose the nomination (as I expect he will):

    In a wide-ranging, 30-minute interview with The Washington Post, the billionaire real estate mogul and reality-television star also said he has serious concerns about other GOP candidates and refused to commit to supporting the eventual nominee in the general election...

    Pressed about whether he would back the Republican ticket if he fails to win the nomination himself, Trump left the door open for a third-party bid of his own. “I would have to see who the nominee is,” he said.


    Trump vows long campaign, won

    A courageous choice is one that is made when the risks-benefits of maintaining or changing a position are not fully known. A choice made after it becomes evident a position is not viable and there is no alternative but to shift position is not a courageous choice. The former is an example of an act of leadership. The latter is an example of a lack of leadership.

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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    A hint that the RNC's appeasement of Trump's candidacy out of fear of a third party run may not spare the Republican Party from an independent Trump candidacy should Trump lose the nomination (as I expect he will):

    In a wide-ranging, 30-minute interview with The Washington Post, the billionaire real estate mogul and reality-television star also said he has serious concerns about other GOP candidates and refused to commit to supporting the eventual nominee in the general election...

    Pressed about whether he would back the Republican ticket if he fails to win the nomination himself, Trump left the door open for a third-party bid of his own. “I would have to see who the nominee is,” he said.


    Trump vows long campaign, won

    A courageous choice is one that is made when the risks-benefits of maintaining or changing a position are not fully known. A choice made after it becomes evident a position is not viable and there is no alternative but to shift position is not a courageous choice. The former is an example of an act of leadership. The latter is an example of a lack of leadership.
    That's a good point...Trump is the vindictive sort so if he was kept out of the race or felt mistreated I could see him running as a 3rd party
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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    GOP leaders fear damage to party







    Trump loves $. He isn't (really?) this stupid is he? He is hurting his short-term profits, what is his long game here? Is he secretly trying to sabotage the GOP?
    He's secretly working for the DNC. What's funny is he proves what we've been saying about the GOP all along. Just look at his polling numbers.
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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    He's secretly working for the DNC. What's funny is he proves what we've been saying about the GOP all along. Just look at his polling numbers.
    He's creating a real "branding" problem for the Republican Party and the Party leadership's appeasement is allowing that problem to become ever more damaging. An analogy created based on the outcome of Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus' recent phone conversation with Donald Trump:

    The protagonists are Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus and José (representing the nation's growing Latino electorate). The fictional conversation takes place in a large tent.

    RP: José, I'm sorry, but you have to leave.

    J: But why?

    RP: We need to make room for "the Donald." He has demanding preferences.

    J: But I thought you had a "big tent" where all were welcome.

    RP: We do. It's big, but not that big. Adios.

    José departs. Shortly, thereafter, ground is broken around the tent. Construction on "the Great Wall of Trump" commences that, when completed, would lock out unwanted intruders (prospective new voters). At the same time, a bill for the project's construction, addressed to the Los Pinos residence in Mexico City, is being prepared.

    Although this analogy is purely fictional and does not reflect the RNC Chairman's actual desire to attract Latino voters to the Party (now being undercut by his indecision), it reflects how Latino voters see the RNC's accommodation of Trump's candidacy. There is a growing risk that not only will the GOP lose even more of its limited support among this growing group of voters, but that the split could be enduring. In a worst-case scenario, one might be talking about something along the lines of the GOP's persistent near total lack of competitiveness among African American voters.

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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    He's creating a real "branding" problem for the Republican Party and the Party leadership's appeasement is allowing that problem to become ever more damaging. An analogy created based on the outcome of Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus' recent phone conversation with Donald Trump:

    The protagonists are Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus and José (representing the nation's growing Latino electorate). The fictional conversation takes place in a large tent.

    RP: José, I'm sorry, but you have to leave.

    J: But why?

    RP: We need to make room for "the Donald." He has demanding preferences.

    J: But I thought you had a "big tent" where all were welcome.

    RP: We do. It's big, but not that big. Adios.

    José departs. Shortly, thereafter, ground is broken around the tent. Construction on "the Great Wall of Trump" commences that, when completed, would lock out unwanted intruders (prospective new voters). At the same time, a bill for the project's construction, addressed to the Los Pinos residence in Mexico City, is being prepared.

    Although this analogy is purely fictional and does not reflect the RNC Chairman's actual desire to attract Latino voters to the Party (now being undercut by his indecision), it reflects how Latino voters see the RNC's accommodation of Trump's candidacy. There is a growing risk that not only will the GOP lose even more of its limited support among this growing group of voters, but that the split could be enduring. In a worst-case scenario, one might be talking about something along the lines of the GOP's persistent near total lack of competitiveness among African American voters.
    That does make sense. I just think that his polling numbers indicate that the problem isn't just inside the RNC.
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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Yeah there's no immigrants in the Northeast. It's lilly white here. LOL

    psssssst. My neighbors are Mexican. Cross the street there's a woman from Ireland, her neighbors are from Greece. Italians kitty corner from them. Germans, Poles and all the rest are neighbors too. It's a regular UN here, always has been. But yeah I don't know what the hell is going on.

    Now I'm sure you are going to say you are only talking about illegal immigrants. There's plenty of them here too. And I agree something needs to be done, it's a mess. But you Cons got to take the partisan, everything is Obama and the Dems fault glasses off and realize the GOP is just as guilty. They had many, many chances to fix the mess, but they don't. A couple days ago I posted an example of even in Texas, where they want to pass bills that have tough penalties for employers who hire illegals, but they back off because as one GOP politician in TX said, if they don't pass the bill with exceptions a large portition of Tx. population would end up in jail.

    Instead of just nodding blindly when GOP politicians talk about immigration, hold their feet to the fire. Ask them why in the past they did nothing. Ask them if the will buck their business donors who like and want cheap labor immigrants.
    Your assumption was correct. I am referring to illegal aliens, not legal immigrants.

    Also, at present, it is the Democratic Party, and the President of the United States, who is actively encouraging illegal immigration, and who is actively pandering to them by excusing their lawlessness, and rewarding their actions.

    Your attempt to deflect from this fact does not remove the blame from liberal/progressives who are responsible for these policies and create such absurdities as Sanctuary Cities.
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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Your assumption was correct. I am referring to illegal aliens, not legal immigrants.

    Also, at present, it is the Democratic Party, and the President of the United States, who is actively encouraging illegal immigration, and who is actively pandering to them by excusing their lawlessness, and rewarding their actions.

    Your attempt to deflect from this fact does not remove the blame from liberal/progressives who are responsible for these policies and create such absurdities as Sanctuary Cities.
    And you and the most others in the GOP are being played by the Republican politicians and their business donors and their interests.

    The Dems absolutely deserve some of the blame, but it was Reagan who gave amnesty, and Bush 2 who wanted to give amnesty again. But hey the Republican politicians keep throwing the red meat to their base, and that keeps the GOP base pointing their fingers at Obama and the Dems only. All the while the GOP smiles, winks and nods to their business donors and buddies and let our workforce get flooded with cheap labor. Businesses love cheap labor.
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