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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    And Trump is still polling well. The racist leg of the GOP is wide, and runs deep.
    It is not racism. It is an understanding that illegal immigration causes problems that could be avoided if we chose to fix it. Why is racism a stupid excuse for nearly everything on the left? It's just nuts.

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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    It is not racism. It is an understanding that illegal immigration causes problems that could be avoided if we chose to fix it. Why is racism a stupid excuse for nearly everything on the left? It's just nuts.
    Why do the people on the right, always, always says it isn't racism, when most of the time it is?

    Days after that kid killed 9 in a church many cons were saying it wasn't racism that caused that kid to kill, some on Fox said they were shot because they were Christians.

    Face it. The GOP has a problem. Dealing with it is better than ignoring it.

    BTW I'm all for fixing the immigration problem. But calling immigrants names and calling them criminals isn't the way to address the problem.
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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Why do the people on the right, always, always says it isn't racism, when most of the time it is?
    Because most of the time it isn't. It is having a problem with ILLEGAL immigration.

    Days after that kid killed 9 in a church many cons were saying it wasn't racism that caused that kid to kill, some on Fox said they were shot because they were Christians.
    I watch Fox news and never heard that. All I heard was that the murders were racially motivated and proof was provided. If someone said they were shot because they were christians, then that would have been a minority opinion for sure.

    Face it. The GOP has a problem. Dealing with it is better than ignoring it.
    No question about that. The GOP has the same problem with the Democrat party. Both are political parties and political parties are definitely a problem.

    BTW I'm all for fixing the immigration problem. But calling immigrants names and calling them criminals isn't the way to address the problem.
    But Trump didn't call them names. He described the behavior of some of them. You need to try to look past your partisanship.

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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I watch Fox news and never heard that. All I heard was that the murders were racially motivated and proof was provided. If someone said they were shot because they were christians, then that would have been a minority opinion for sure.
    Fox News: Charleston shooting is an attack on faith, not race

    Yeah. It's a major news network. They said it and as far as I know never retracted it, or apologized.

    But Trump didn't call them names. He described the behavior of some of them.
    “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
    You got it backwards. He's saying the majority are bad and only some, he assumes, are good.
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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Trump is the GOP's id run amok.

    How can they expect to win if Republicans can't hide what they're truly feeling and what they really want to do?
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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Trump is putting Republicans in a tough spot. If this forum is anything to go by, many people on the right sympathize with his comments. However, if you think Trump's statements are anywhere near being "right", you probably weren't going to vote for a Democrat in 2016. That said, Republicans are starting to become worried about the Hispanic vote. Trump doesn't have enough pull to convert people, however his comments can keep quite a few people away from the Republican party in 2016.

    It will definitely be interesting watching the RNC pull this juggling act until Trump bows out. On one hand, borderline ****s like Coulter and Trump going after Hispanics, and on the other the RNCs push to make "inroads with Hispanics". Which will they pick? Who knows. I just know that what they do in the next year could very well determine how the Hispanic vote goes for the next 20-30 years.
    Yeah, it is going to put a light on the immigration debate on the Republican side and it will be fun to watch. The immigration issue is a big one on the Republican side. More flip flopping than a fish on land lately. I think it is a good thing that politicians might be forced to actually take a stand on an issue. Most of the candidates right now, on both sides, are going to need surgery from all the contortions they are going through.
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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Fox News: Charleston shooting is an attack on faith, not race

    Yeah. It's a major news network. They said it and as far as I know never retracted it, or apologized.
    I read the transcript. Nowhere did anybody say it wasn't a racially motivated murder. The pastor said it was too bad it occurred in a church because it plays to war on Christianity. I don't think anybody needs to apologize.





    You got it backwards. He's saying the majority are bad and only some, he assumes, are good.
    He didn't use the word majority at all. It is your word because it fits your political agenda. The huge majority of illegal Mexican immigrants are uneducated, unskilled and poor. Yes, they are trying to better their life in America but they are what they are and they are not Mexico's best. That is what Trump said. They do bring drugs and they do bring crime. Not all of them, not a majority of them but these are certainly symptoms of the illegal immigration problem.

    I'm a latino myself. Spanish is my native language. I understand fully what motivates illegal immigrants. I'm a huge supporter of immigration but not illegal immigration. The left supports it not because it is good for America but because it means votes after they complete the "path to citizenship." If the left wants to get more support for it they should pursue a policy of a pathway to legal immigrant status. That takes the voting out of the equation. I think most people on the right would support legal immigrant status for those illegals who have not commited crimes and if we move toward legal immigration instead. The whole thing is so transparent. It is pure politics but it shouldn't be.

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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    GOP leaders fear damage to party







    Trump loves $. He isn't (really?) this stupid is he? He is hurting his short-term profits, what is his long game here? Is he secretly trying to sabotage the GOP?
    The Republican leadership needs the political courage (and foresight) to bar him from the nominating process as it did with David Duke in 1992. If not, it has only itself to blame voters tie the Party to Trump's deplorable rhetoric.

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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Fox News: Charleston shooting is an attack on faith, not race

    Yeah. It's a major news network. They said it and as far as I know never retracted it, or apologized.





    You got it backwards. He's saying the majority are bad and only some, he assumes, are good.


    The DailyKos post of Media Matters post involved a conversation that occurred shortly after the killing, and before any facts were known. Geeze, can these Progressive Machine flugelhorns get any more laughable?

    As the tens of thousands of victims of illegal aliens can testify, Trump was 100% accurate in his statement. Why not come to Southern California and see for yourself. Perhaps your vantage point in the Northeast allows you to stay away from the truth.
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    Re: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I read the transcript. Nowhere did anybody say it wasn't a racially motivated murder. The pastor said it was too bad it occurred in a church because it plays to war on Christianity. I don't think anybody needs to apologize.
    Even though it was reported right from the start what this kid said while he was shooting people and everyone knew he said he was shooting them because they were black, NOT because they were Christian. The Fox people said the shooting might have been because they're Christian and in a Christian church. If you refuse to add 2 and 2, that's OK.

    I'm a latino myself. Spanish is my native language. I understand fully what motivates illegal immigrants. I'm a huge supporter of immigration but not illegal immigration. The left supports it not because it is good for America but because it means votes after they complete the "path to citizenship." If the left wants to get more support for it they should pursue a policy of a pathway to legal immigrant status. That takes the voting out of the equation. I think most people on the right would support legal immigrant status for those illegals who have not commited crimes and if we move toward legal immigration instead. The whole thing is so transparent. It is pure politics but it shouldn't be.
    Trump didn't differentiate between illegal and legal. He lumped them all together, including the ones already here.

    And with all due respect stuff the this is all the Dems fault because they are looking for votes BS. The GOP is a VERY business friendly party and businesses love both legal, and illegal immigrants because of the low wages they get paid, and they help keep overall wages down. History shows that even when the GOP has the power and the WH, they don't do a damn thing to fix the mess. But unfortunately they talk and talk, and throw their base red meat, and the lemming GOP voters believe that the Republicans actually want to fix the problem. They don't, they never did. even when they had their chances. They don't want to fixit because their business friends and donors don't want it fixed.
    Last edited by SenorXm/Sirius; 07-09-15 at 12:04 PM.
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