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    re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Well, given how a vast portion of the jobs that have been "created" have been part time, my initial guess would be that he was referring to 40 hours.
    Anyone who has been reading the pages of National Affairs over the past 6 years and are aware of Yuval Levin, April and Ramesh Ponnuru knows where Jeb is getting some of his biggest arguments.
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    re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Today, Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush, who as of-late has gone relatively gaffe-free, uttered a phrase that may not go over too well with the constituency he wishes to reach.

    Read the article here: http://new.yahoo.com/jeb-bush-people...235206730.html

    Does anyone on this forum agree with Mr.Bush?

    I don't. I'm retired now but most of my life I worked 7-days on, 7-days off, 12 hours a day. That's an 84 hour week. How many more hours does this guy think that I should have worked?

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    "Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
    Maybe it's that new math but aren't all hours the same length?

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    re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Anyone who has been reading the pages of National Affairs over the past 6 years and are aware of Yuval Levin, April and Ramesh Ponnuru knows where Jeb is getting some of his biggest arguments.
    The toilet?

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    re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Today, Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush, who as of-late has gone relatively gaffe-free, uttered a phrase that may not go over too well with the constituency he wishes to reach.

    Read the article here: http://new.yahoo.com/jeb-bush-people...235206730.html

    Does anyone on this forum agree with Mr.Bush?

    I don't. I'm retired now but most of my life I worked 7-days on, 7-days off, 12 hours a day. That's an 84 hour week. How many more hours does this guy think that I should have worked?






    "Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
    “My aspiration for the country and I believe we can achieve it, is 4 percent growth as far as the eye can see. Which means we have to be a lot more productive, workforce participation has to rise from its all-time modern lows. It means that people need to work longer hours” and, through their productivity, gain more income for their families. That's the only way we're going to get out of this rut that we're in.”

    I can't see what the problem is. I don't claim to have any great economic insights, and there may be a another way to achieve a 4% growth rate, other than working more hours. But a sustained 4% growth rate over 5-6 years would dramatically increase government revenues and improve the finances of at least those putting in the longer hours. Clearly those people with larger paychecks will increase their demand and create additional employment opportunities for those currently without work. Yes I would prefer that the 4% growth rate could be achieved primarily by employing those currently seeking work, but I don't know how that would happen and I haven't heard of anything. Although DOA in either party, a good hard look at "free trade" might do wonders to increase employment and market driven wage increases. Before the long partisan knives get drawn, I fully recognize that a large portion of our society is working at jobs with wages so low that even after 40 hours, they may not have made it to poverty level, and don't have any benefits. But that's something else entirely.

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    re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by dpcal View Post
    “My aspiration for the country and I believe we can achieve it, is 4 percent growth as far as the eye can see. Which means we have to be a lot more productive, workforce participation has to rise from its all-time modern lows. It means that people need to work longer hours” and, through their productivity, gain more income for their families. That's the only way we're going to get out of this rut that we're in.”

    I can't see what the problem is. I don't claim to have any great economic insights, and there may be a another way to achieve a 4% growth rate, other than working more hours. But a sustained 4% growth rate over 5-6 years would dramatically increase government revenues and improve the finances of at least those putting in the longer hours. Clearly those people with larger paychecks will increase their demand and create additional employment opportunities for those currently without work. Yes I would prefer that the 4% growth rate could be achieved primarily by employing those currently seeking work, but I don't know how that would happen and I haven't heard of anything. Although DOA in either party, a good hard look at "free trade" might do wonders to increase employment and market driven wage increases. Before the long partisan knives get drawn, I fully recognize that a large portion of our society is working at jobs with wages so low that even after 40 hours, they may not have made it to poverty level, and don't have any benefits. But that's something else entirely.
    We've already had free trade of goods for decades. Recent "free trade" agreements threaten sovereignty and change the way that capital can be imported or exported.

    Our country is dramatically more productive than it was years ago. The problem is that the people who work to produce have not had their compensation increased to match the increase in production. This is because the people who own the means of production are siphoning away the wealth to their own coffers, because there's nothing stopping them, and there's a huge amount of unemployment which they abuse to keep wages down.

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    re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    My, how that number jumps up when you leave out all of the people with part time jobs.

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    re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by distraff View Post
    You said most people work over 50. Now you are saying the average is 47.
    Actually, I said nearly 50 hours.

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    re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Today, Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush, who as of-late has gone relatively gaffe-free, uttered a phrase that may not go over too well with the constituency he wishes to reach.
    The only people that seem that seem to have a problem with it are those whining about the Koch brothers, Saudi oil barons, and the evil 1% that have created a nation of serfs to accomplish their dirty deeds. I don't know that he's really hoping to reach those people.

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    re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    The only people that seem that seem to have a problem with it are those whining about the Koch brothers, Saudi oil barons, and the evil 1% that have created a nation of serfs to accomplish their dirty deeds. I don't know that he's really hoping to reach those people.
    Who is he hoping to reach? The gullible nitwits who think George W. Bush was a good president?

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    re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    We've already had free trade of goods for decades. Recent "free trade" agreements threaten sovereignty and change the way that capital can be imported or exported.

    Our country is dramatically more productive than it was years ago. The problem is that the people who work to produce have not had their compensation increased to match the increase in production. This is because the people who own the means of production are siphoning away the wealth to their own coffers, because there's nothing stopping them, and there's a huge amount of unemployment which they abuse to keep wages down.
    We have very different views of free trade. While it really hasn't changed much over time, IMO free trade means finds the place on the planet that pays the labor least to produce labor intensive goods. As such "free trade" shifts all non localized low skilled labor intensive work out of the country.... there is simply no way to compete with a couple bucks or less an hour for manufacturing. So what did we replace that work with for our lower skilled. More McDonalds??? In the 50s, 60s, 70s, we benefitted from being the only major economy that wasn't ravaged by the war except in part GB. During those times, the low skilled labor market was tight and market demand for labor drove the wages. With recovery of the worlds economies, institution of free trade, large scale "immigration" of low skilled labor from Mexico, our low skilled labor force has been glutted, and has to compete with a few billion people willing to work for almost anything they can get. I am not suggesting this situation is survivable for our lower skilled, but the reality is any job offering $9.00 dollars an hour, will draw long lines at least where I live..... if that isn't a glut of labor I don't know what is.

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