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    Re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by Marla View Post
    Your position? Are you a employer, Henrin?
    How is that relevant? If I support doing nothing to resolve the apparent problem of equal pay for women is that the same thing as denying women equal pay?

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    Re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Half the time Henrin, you're either so damn contradictory, confusing, or vague in your statements I haven't the slightest idea how to respond to you.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    OMG, let me at him, omg

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    Re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The Supreme Court, in its first ruling on the ACA, declared it was constitutional because the mandate was a tax. Chief Justice Roberts parked his integrity and twisted himself into a pretzel in order to make that ruling to save the ACA.

    I suggest you take your own advice to avoid looking foolish.
    You only pay a tax if you don't have health care.

    I suggest you take your own advice to avoid looking foolish.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by Marla View Post
    Half the time Henrin, you're either so damn contradictory, confusing, or vague in your statements I haven't the slightest idea how to respond to you.
    To be fair, there are lots of compelling contextual reasons that seek to explain the statistical wage gap between male and female employees. Linda Nochlin wrote a wonderful paper entitled (something like) "Why have there been no great women artists?" I highly recommend it.

    I am quite confident that many employers pay as little as possible. Sometimes that may mean offering a woman a smaller starting salary with the presumption that she will be more likely to accept it anyway.

    I think that, for this case, both sides have sufficiently compelling reasoning to justify toning down the rhetoric a bit. We suspect male employees do tend to have slightly higher job competitive drive, similarly we expect males generally have more upper body strength. Statistically, the difference in pay is certainly significant, but it is not supermassive so-as-to make pure gender discrimination the unquestionably dominant explanation for the overwhelming gap.

    I think that, with the situation as it is, the best solution is not necessarily from legislation, but from individuals. It is illegal for a company to discriminate against employees salaries on the basis of gender, so sites like glassceiling can help employees keep employers honest. Employees should make use of these tools and make employers accountable. Unfortunately, i'm not fond of this solution because, if there are many potential applicants for a given position, you would have no leverage (they would just hire another woman who would accept the reduced pay), i just can't think of a better one. Forcing employers to pay the same, it's the system we're supposed to already have, but it gets increasingly complicated when tasks, bonuses and raises are always individualized.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You only pay a tax if you don't have health care.

    I suggest you take your own advice to avoid looking foolish.
    The only person here who's looking foolish is the one who persists on believing that the Supreme Court didn't rule that the mandate under the ACA is a tax and that's the only reason the ACA wasn't trashed and remains the law.

    If ignorance is bliss, you must be as giddy as a pig in ****.
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    Re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Today, Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush, who as of-late has gone relatively gaffe-free, uttered a phrase that may not go over too well with the constituency he wishes to reach.

    Read the article here: http://new.yahoo.com/jeb-bush-people...235206730.html

    Does anyone on this forum agree with Mr.Bush?

    I don't. I'm retired now but most of my life I worked 7-days on, 7-days off, 12 hours a day. That's an 84 hour week. How many more hours does this guy think that I should have worked?






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    Mr Bush was referring to the need for people to have full time jobs not part time jobs.
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    Re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Mr Bush was referring to the need for people to have full time jobs not part time jobs.
    Are you sure he's not referring to people working past 65?

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    Re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Are you sure he's not referring to people working past 65?
    Hours, lol. He may be a supporter of working past 65 years old too, I don't know. I'm no fan of John Ellis, don't misunderstand me, and we can defeat him on so many issues. But I listened to what he said, and his statement a few hours later at another rally stop. He very clearly was referring to peoples need to have full time employment by today's definition which is a 40 hour work week.
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    Re: Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The only person here who's looking foolish is the one who persists on believing that the Supreme Court didn't rule that the mandate under the ACA is a tax and that's the only reason the ACA wasn't trashed and remains the law.

    If ignorance is bliss, you must be as giddy as a pig in ****.
    I don't pay that... Do you understand what i'm saying?

    It doesn't cost me a dime. My employer provides health care, they pay for it on my behalf.

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