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    Re: Jefferson Memorial, Confederate statues enter national race debate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh it's apt....The problem you have is that you think you can do that type of thing, but heaven forbid anyone else do so....typical.
    No sir, again that's not what I said.
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    Re: Jefferson Memorial, Confederate statues enter national race debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What does that even mean? Nazism was "legitimate", genocide of native Americans was "legitimate". Too many people seem willing to dismiss evil because it was the accepted mindset at the time, everybody was doing it, etc.
    Nobody here is legitimizing it here. Rather they are saying hind-sight is hind-sight. Trying to apply a 21st century understanding to a 18th/19th century idea is asinine especially when those arguing for that application are ignoring on going slavery around the world. There are more slaves in the world today then there was in the in the US at the start of the Civil War. About 4xs as much.

    There are better fights then fighting history. You could be making history instead of pissing and moaning about the past.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Jefferson Memorial, Confederate statues enter national race debate

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Nobody here is legitimizing it here. Rather they are saying hind-sight is hind-sight. Trying to apply a 21st century understanding to a 18th/19th century idea is asinine especially when those arguing for that application are ignoring on going slavery around the world. There are more slaves in the world today then there was in the in the US at the start of the Civil War. About 4xs as much.

    There are better fights then fighting history. You could be making history instead of pissing and moaning about the past.
    I'm sorry to dull your sensitivities. But go right ahead and justify human trafficking and slavery........if it makes you feel better.
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    Re: Jefferson Memorial, Confederate statues enter national race debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Ah, the slippery slope. Georgia took it down 14 years ago. They're doing just fine.

    Have you seen the Georgia state flag? It's known as the Georgia Stars and Bars. It's literally the Confederate National flag. The flag everybody is whining about is actually a Battle Flag which was first used by the Army of Northern Virginia. Big difference.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Jefferson Memorial, Confederate statues enter national race debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm sorry to dull your sensitivities. But go right ahead and justify human trafficking and slavery........if it makes you feel better.
    I am not you nit wit. I am telling you there is SLAVERY STILL ONGOING and yet you are bitching about history.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Jefferson Memorial, Confederate statues enter national race debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No sir, again that's not what I said.
    Of course not....Because we all know that everyone else is too damned dumb to get it, right?

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    Re: Jefferson Memorial, Confederate statues enter national race debate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Of course not....Because we all know that everyone else is too damned dumb to get it, right?
    That's a whole other point. But you accused me of saying something I hadn't.
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    Re: Jefferson Memorial, Confederate statues enter national race debate

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    I am not you nit wit. I am telling you there is SLAVERY STILL ONGOING and yet you are bitching about history.
    Wrong. I'm criticizing the glorification today of an evil institution of yesterday.
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    Re: Jefferson Memorial, Confederate statues enter national race debate

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    She might very well be stupid, but I think you might agree with her if you knew the context in which she is speaking. She was comparing the call for taking down the Confederate flag with Thomas Jefferson's statue. I don't believe she was advocating for it's removal.

    While discussing the movement to eradicate the presence of the Confederate flag, a CNN host asked whether we should also bring down a monument to a president who owned slaves.

    After last week’s slaughter of nine black churchgoers by a white gunman in Charleston, South Carolina, aroused debate over the Confederate flag and inspired at least six major retailers to ban its sale, CNN host Ashleigh Banfield asked co-host Don Lemon whether this means we should also take down a memorial to former President Thomas Jefferson because of his slave ownership in the 1700s and early 1800s.


    "Jefferson owned slaves," Banfield said, noting that a previous guest had made a "good point" in bringing that up. "Thomas Jefferson owned slaves -- third president of the United States. And there is a monument to him in the capital city of the United States. No one ever asks for that to come down. Is it equal [to the Confederate flag]?"

    CNN Host Asks If Jefferson Memorial Is Equal With Confederate Flag


    Liberals /facepalm


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    Re: Jefferson Memorial, Confederate statues enter national race debate

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    Liberals /facepalm
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