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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    So it's true then. If we really limit the guns citizens have an only law enforcement have them, then there will be less gun crime and accidents!

    Oh, wait.

    Just like the cop here who left his loaded gun...and his 2 small kids... in his van while he and his wife went in to shop. 7 yr old son took it from glove compartment and accidentally (we hope) killed his 3 yr old sister. But hey! Guns are only safe in the hands of professionals! Not the unwashed masses.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    So it's true then. If we really limit the guns citizens have an only law enforcement have them, then there will be less gun crime and accidents!

    Oh, wait.

    Just like the cop here who left his loaded gun...and his 2 small kids... in his van while he and his wife went in to shop. 7 yr old son took it from glove compartment and accidentally (we hope) killed his 3 yr old sister. But hey! Guns are only safe in the hands of professionals! Not the unwashed masses.
    Guns are not safe for anyone, that is generally the point of a gun, is to be unsafe and kill people, weather its for defense, or otherwise. A gun is an inanimate object, and does not care who's hands its in, or what its pointed at. As humans, it goes without saying that even the most professional and proficient people make mistakes. When you are around guns all the time, one can become complacent about the danger a gun brings into any situation. People who are the most proficient and professional are arguable the most at risk of making ignorant mistakes. This can be explained easily. Take a gun and hand it to someone who has never fired on, or been around one before, educate them on the dangers and how to use it, and the first time they are handed one to fire, they are so afraid that they follow all the rules to the T.

    Certainly, the person in the situation you describe sounds like the complacent professional I mentioned above, and should be punished for it. The problem with gun culture in America, is that we have become so desensitized to them that all of us are in danger of becoming that complacent professional that shoots himself, or someone else.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    San Francisco killing: Gun belonged to federal agent - CNN.com






    this is turning into a True Detective episode. and it will gain momentum and become a BIG part of the upcoming election. It could really give the GOP candidates traction, no doubt.
    The chance of this being a BIG part of anything is nil.

    How did this gun get from a fed to a criminal?
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Or you know, the responsibility could fall on the killer himself, or the Federal Agent that owned the gun. But lets ignore personal responsibility and play the fun game of politics!
    That only works when the cons can't try and make political hay out of a tragic incident. Didn't you get the memo?
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    good point. too bad so many liberals would blame the NRA or the gun maker! the killer needs to be returned to mexico-one piece at a time. the agent may be blameless or should be brought up on charges. there is something to be said for deported felons who return being fair game
    What "liberal" have you seen blame either for this murder?
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    i don't want my OP to sound like I'm glad this happened. it's a tragedy. and it always sickens me when the liberals turn a tragedy into political gain overnight. but my point is Trump and his comments have turned this entire issue into a grenade field for any politician to comment on. So this event encapsulates and motivates an ACTUAL DISCUSSION of the issue. that is why I think it might be an important case. It will help us solve the problem that many(up to now) were to politically scared to speak on.
    You mean like you did? I bet those dastardly libby lib libtards made you do it!

    Conservatives capitalize on tragedy to score political points as much or more than liberals do.

    Exhibit A: This case.
    Exhibit B: 9/11
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    man what a lying crock of BS this sack of feces is..


    BS


    no it didn't modern guns cannot fire unless the trigger is pulled



    I'm pretty sure hunting sea lions is illegal in California
    I buy precisely zero words of that guy's story. Even the "ands" and "thes" smell like week-old sushi.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So the federal agent should be held accountable, and of course all federal agents should have their guns confiscated. They are obviously too irresponsible to have guns.
    You are the king of straw. Literally nobody has even suggested anything close to this nonsensical bull****.

    The guy yammering about gun registration (in a case where it never would have come into play) made a more valid, germane statement than that pile of feces.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Man. Politics in your world must be soooo simple.
    Of course they are. Everything bad that happens is 100% the fault of the Democratic Party, QED, suck it libtard. That is his entire philosophy.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    MANY LIBERALS is what I said NOT ALL

    and Bernie is in favor of

    "assault weapon bans"

    waiting periods

    and other idiocy
    What the **** is wrong with a waiting period?
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