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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    no one said execute him without trial.
    Do you support him going through the proper justice procedures? Or do you think that since he was already found entering the country illegally, and that human rights supposedly dont exist in your opinion do you support him going through the proper justice procedures set up in this country?
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    The man was deported five times, I don't quite know how "liberal policies" could have allowed or prevented his actions. Illegal immigrants have committed crimes before in Conservative areas with strict laws against immigration and it'll probably happen again. It's an absolute tragedy but I don't think using it to try and stir things up in Capitol Hill makes much sense.
    Liberal policies allow sanctuary cities to exist...hence why this guy wasnt handed over to ICE by the local PD. This dude knew that if he went to San Fran, nothing was going to happen to him, he was staying in the US to leech off us, commit multiple felonies, murder pretty young women, etc.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

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    Man. Politics in your world must be soooo simple.
    Im a problem solver. Im not the type to bitch and complain about how mean and racist things are. I do things that work, I do things that make sense.

    I dont find much sense in having a country that doesnt have a border that matters. But that is just me and Trump, I guess.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Do you support him going through the proper justice procedures? Or do you think that since he was already found entering the country illegally, and that human rights supposedly dont exist in your opinion do you support him going through the proper justice procedures set up in this country?

    He should go through the regular procedures in this country for conviction and execution, if the prosecutor chooses to seek the DP.

    I am only making the point about human rights because that's the type of language people use when they want to insist America has inadequate constitutional protections
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    like the Fed Gov has for their agents guns that worked SOOOO WELLL here right?
    Was it his personal firearm, or a firearm used for duty. I know for the police and the military, they generally have very strict accountability procedures for firearms used on the job. That's why you rarely hear of a firearm being used to commit a crime being traced back as a police officers firearm (not personal firearm). And you rarely ever hear of a firearm from a military base being found to have been used in a crime outside the base.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    good point. too bad so many liberals would blame the NRA or the gun maker! the killer needs to be returned to mexico-one piece at a time. the agent may be blameless or should be brought up on charges. there is something to be said for deported felons who return being fair game
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    He should go through the regular procedures in this country for conviction and execution, if the prosecutor chooses to seek the DP.

    I am only making the point about human rights because that's the type of language people use when they want to insist America has inadequate constitutional protections
    Im sorry but positive and negative rights coexist for sometime, and there is open debate to if human rights are a continuation of natural rights.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Was it his personal firearm, or a firearm used for duty. I know for the police and the military, they generally have very strict accountability procedures for firearms used on the job. That's why you rarely hear of a firearm being used to commit a crime being traced back as a police officers firearm (not personal firearm). And you rarely ever hear of a firearm from a military base being found to have been used in a crime outside the base.
    actually that is not true and the federal government loses thousands of fully automatic rifles and heavier weapons each year. Police evidence rooms are often the source of guns used by gang bangers as well. most of the heavy stuff ends up overseas though since stuff like automatic rifles, machine guns etc have very little value to most civilian-environment criminals
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent


    MANY LIBERALS is what I said NOT ALL

    and Bernie is in favor of

    "assault weapon bans"

    waiting periods

    and other idiocy
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