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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    i don't want my OP to sound like I'm glad this happened. it's a tragedy. and it always sickens me when the liberals turn a tragedy into political gain overnight. but my point is Trump and his comments have turned this entire issue into a grenade field for any politician to comment on. So this event encapsulates and motivates an ACTUAL DISCUSSION of the issue. that is why I think it might be an important case. It will help us solve the problem that many(up to now) were to politically scared to speak on.

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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I thought you guys were all about "personal responsibility". What happened?
    We are. Maybe Democrats should admit their policies suck....I mean holy ****....this mother****er is in the country AGAIN due to a sieve border and a refusal to deport and prosecute....things Obama is calling "discretion" on his part (its not really discretion, it is de-facto legislation, illegal and Unconstitutional by the way, not that Obama has ever respected the Constitution, it was written by white men after all). Josh "not so" Earnest is blaming Republicans! What in the hell did Republicans to do enable this? They want to lock the border down and keep maggots like this murderer OUT of the United States. So what exactly are you ****ing talking about, socialist?
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    FWIW -

    Fox has a bit more detail as to the gun's history, and the defendant's narrative of the homicide:

    Foxnews.com - 'Gun allegedly used by San Francisco shooting suspect belonged to federal agent, source says'
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Or you know, the responsibility could fall on the killer himself, or the Federal Agent that owned the gun. But lets ignore personal responsibility and play the fun game of politics!
    Ummmm I did blame the killer. I also blamed the policies (which Democrats support. If you forgot, those are the people you vote for while you pretend Republicans are racist and mean and hate babies or something) that enable him to continue to come back into this country and commit heinous crimes.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I thought you guys were all about "personal responsibility". What happened?
    He went into a sanctuary city. He didn't have to be responsible for breaking US law. The city of San Francisco saw to that.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    What about the murder victim's "basic human rights?"
    since society is responsible for a mope being a mope, the victims of said scumbags are just paying for society's failure to treat the mope properly
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    well he should be tried and convicted before being executed and returned to mexico, that's in keeping with basic constitutional rights, human rights don't exist, you have exactly zero rights on the basis of being a human, you only have rights by living in a society that chooses to recognize you have them btw.
    Damn! Human rights dont exist. Man! Someone should tell human rights lawyers!

    But anyways, negative and positive rights are not mutually exclusive and have and do exist together in society.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    He went into a sanctuary city. He didn't have to be responsible for breaking US law. The city of San Francisco saw to that.
    So again. What happened to personal responsibility? You're still blaming society...
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Damn! Human rights dont exist. Man! Someone should tell human rights lawyers!

    But anyways, negative and positive rights are not mutually exclusive and have and do exist together in society.
    as a reality they do not, they are an invented concept.

    one should go ask those in IS controlled Iraq how their human rights are working out this week. rights need to be enforceable or else they don't exist.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

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    San Francisco killing: Gun belonged to federal agent - CNN.com






    this is turning into a True Detective episode. and it will gain momentum and become a BIG part of the upcoming election. It could really give the GOP candidates traction, no doubt.
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