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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    1) lol!
    Whats so funny?
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Excuse me, WTF is a "returning immigrant"? Is that some new Politically Correct term for an illegal?
    Didnt know "returning illegal immigrants" arent immigrants... But anyways if you wanna get held up on semantics, more power to ya
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

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    San Francisco killing: Gun belonged to federal agent - CNN.com






    this is turning into a True Detective episode. and it will gain momentum and become a BIG part of the upcoming election. It could really give the GOP candidates traction, no doubt.
    At this point, this information sort of supports the suspect's claim that he picked up a cloth wrapped object, and it was gun that went off unexpectedly. However, it remains to be fleshed out how this suspect and the gun came together.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Didnt know "returning illegal immigrants" arent immigrants... But anyways if you wanna get held up on semantics, more power to ya
    No, they are illegals.

    Tell you what, go up to somebody who entered the country legally and tell them there is no difference between them and those that run-jump and swim across the border in the dark of night. Let's see how well they like that, eh?

    My wife is an Immigrant. She worked and fought and got her legal status, waiting in line and doing all the paperwork and oaths and other legal requirements. Illegal immigrants are largely criminal parasites who refuse to do the right and legal thing for personal selfish reasons.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    No, they are illegals.
    So "illegal immigrants" arent immigrants? But here we go getting held up on semantics....

    Tell you what, go up to somebody who entered the country legally and tell them there is no difference between them and those that run-jump and swim across the border in the dark of night. Let's see how well they like that, eh?
    If I said the word immigrant? Why are semantics important to you? Why is one word something that needs to be debated? Instead of the substance of the post you quoted you pick something petty to get hung up on.

    My wife is an Immigrant. She worked and fought and got her legal status, waiting in line and doing all the paperwork and oaths and other legal requirements. Illegal immigrants are largely criminal parasites who refuse to do the right and legal thing for personal selfish reasons.

    Wait so "illegal immigrants" arent immigrants, but now they are but arent?
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    You don't have to be directly part of the problem. If you sell a gun to someone, who sells it to someone else, when then uses it in a crime and kills someone then you are part of the problem. You are part of the supply chain that allows people to purchase firearms.
    wrong again. I am not responsible for what someone who buys a gun from someone I sold it to. your argument essentially demands a complete ban on firearms-which of course, we have seen you advocate before.
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Excuse me, WTF is a "returning immigrant"? Is that some new Politically Correct term for an illegal?
    he pretends that I was NOT referring to people who

    a) came here illegally

    b) committed a felony while in the USA illegally

    c) was deported

    d) came back here illegally

    e) and committed another felony

    yeah I say at that point shoot them or throw away the key
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah I say at that point shoot them or throw away the key
    I am nowhere near that hard on the issue, but I do believe that such individuals should be treated harshly if they continue.

    First detainment: Deport them, with a note in the record saying that they can return only after they fill out all legal requirements for anybody who wants to enter the country legalls.

    Second detainment: Deport them, with a note in the record saying that as a serial repeat offender, they are not allowed to ever befome a Resident and can only enter for visitation purposes after first gaining all legal approvals needed.

    Third detainment: Arrest them, sentence them to the appropriate jail time then kick them out.

    Fouth and subsequent detainments: Increasing jail sentences and deportation.

    Look, personally i really do not care a lot how somebody enters the country. Legally or illegally. What I care about is what they do once they are in the country. Get a lawyer and/or go to INS on their own recognizance and make the formal request to become a Resident Alien (and eventually citizen), and I am actually rather ambivilent about it. But the majority do not even bother to do that, they simply live here illegally for years or decades, never trying to become Legal Residents.

    I have no pity for the lazy who refuse to "do the right thing", then cry and act like spoiled children when they are caught and then sent home.
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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Thats not a human right violation. TD (who I was responding to)seemed to be saying he should be killed and essentially calling open season on returning immigrants... "the killer needs to be returned to mexico-one piece at a time... there is something to be said for deported felons who return being fair game." Then he essentially called for execution of returning immigrants or jail for life... "people who commit felonies-are then deported to the country from which they came and then re-entered should be shot on site or jailed for life if they are caught committing another felony since they have proven that deporting them doesn't stop their predations."
    The use of the term "returning immigrant" is a not so thinly veiled attempt to imply a moral equivalency between those who enter this country illegally and those who do so legally. It is truly insulting to those who have gone through a very lengthy, stressful, and expensive process for the privilege to live in this country. The fact that you would be so callous as to imply that there is no difference in status or legitimacy between the two speaks volumes to the position of sheer and utter ignorance that you are coming from.

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    Re: Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    The use of the term "returning immigrant" is a not so thinly veiled attempt to imply a moral equivalency between those who enter this country illegally and those who do so legally. It is truly insulting to those who have gone through a very lengthy, stressful, and expensive process for the privilege to live in this country. The fact that you would be so callous as to imply that there is no difference in status or legitimacy between the two speaks volumes to the position of sheer and utter ignorance that you are coming from.
    Jesus ****ing christ. You guys get really held up on words dont cha...
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