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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Antoine Dubuclet is brought up by Grooms. It's true he was a wealthy slaveholder.

    In fact most of the slaveholders brought up in the "black slaveholder" discussion came from Louisiana, and that state was rather unique. They were "Colored Creoles," - many were upwardly mobile, wealthy and a disproportional number owned slaves.

    The distinction is often blurred though when referring to them as "Black slaveowners" as

    1) most looked quite fair skinned by appearance.

    2) many were of European ancestry, not considered "African" or "Black" - and were given special status for a time.

    "By 1843, the Colored group was no longer named as legislative special case, but they still considered themselves exempt, and the courts still usually upheld their special status. Numerous court cases held that the Colored Creoles were not considered Black regarding freedom papers, curfews, and the like. But by the 1850s, the courts had begun to treat all but the wealthiest and most powerful Colored Creoles as free Blacks."

    The One-Drop Rule Arrives in the Postbellum Lower South | | The Color Line and the One-Drop Rule

    In fact it was considered an insult to call a Colored Creole a "Free Black."

    Legally, They were "Colored" a serious distinction made by numerous courts.

    A Free Black there was not allowed a trial by Jury BUT! “Free persons of Colour" *were* entitled to a trial by jury.

    "Justice Porter went on to explain that, since the [Colored Creole] was not Black..."

    Legal History of the Color Line: The Rise and Triumph of the One-drop Rule

    It's a rather fascinating nugget regarding the caste system back then which some probably didn't care to hear, (or maybe even bother to read) -- but I enjoy sharing these little bits of history. It's how I roll.

    How many knew there three legal color lines back then? White, Colored, and Black.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    How dare you!? How dare you not include a drop the mic gif with your post:


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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    In other words you can't actually refute the other points I made. Noted.
    Why would I refute my point, that you proved quite well?
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Why would I refute my point, that you proved quite well?
    You made several other points in your original post that I pointed out to be incorrect, but hey, focus solely on one point.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    You made several other points in your original post that I pointed out to be incorrect, but hey, focus solely on one point.
    No you want truth to be wrong, but oh well. Too bad truth is being hidden in the lies the anti flag crowd wants to spew
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