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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The pony express would carry your letter across the country for ten dollars in the mid 1850's, and it would take a couple of weeks!! What's that in today's money, $300.00? The price of stamps haven't gone up.
    When I was in high school in the 90's, the price of stamps was 29 cents. Now its 50. Tell me that 50 is less than 29. It ain't so.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Although I agree that some things the federal government does are not good, I'm curious as to what things you think those are. Most of the other stuff is handled by the states. And the feds step in generally when a citizen of that state feels their rights have been oppressed by a state.
    We need welfare reform, big time. It was meant to be a temporary relief, not something that passes from generation to generation. We also need to encourage education in this country, including trade schools for young adults who may not be able to earn a 4 year degree in some field or other. I'm not against helping anyone. In fact working at a food bank for the elderly has pretty much become my "career" you might as well say. Also we need to get the economy going again, and frankly I don't have the first danged clue how to do it. I'll leave that to someone with experience in that area.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    When I was in high school in the 90's, the price of stamps was 29 cents. Now its 50. Tell me that 50 is less than 29. It ain't so.
    That is an awfully small change in price though, especially considering the competition the USPS faces (with the widespread use of the internet and cell phones) and the fact that most other things have seen a much more significant jump in price (I could get a candy bar in the 90s for 50 cents, now you're lucky to find one for a dollar or less).
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    That is an awfully small change in price though, especially considering the competition the USPS faces (with the widespread use of the internet and cell phones) and the fact that most other things have seen a much more significant jump in price (I could get a candy bar in the 90s for 50 cents, now you're lucky to find one for a dollar or less).
    I remember my granddaddy telling me about when he worked on the railroad for 25 cents an hour. That was back when money actually went somewhere. Try making that now and you couldn't afford squat. My dad always talks about $2000 a semester covering his college expenses at the University of Puget Sound in Tacoma Washington. Now a semester at UPS will run you 22 grand, and that's just for tuition. Its ridiculous.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    When I was in high school in the 90's, the price of stamps was 29 cents. Now its 50. Tell me that 50 is less than 29. It ain't so.
    50 cents is significantly lower than $300.00, which was the cost to mail a letter in a time period when the government was the size that the framers and yourself preferred it to be.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Can't argue with that.
    I think the founders did make a mistake by not limiting states more, but in regards to the court there isn't that much more they could have done. Still, the idea that one government is better than many is very foolish and people should feel ashamed arguing for it.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    We need welfare reform, big time. It was meant to be a temporary relief, not something that passes from generation to generation. We also need to encourage education in this country, including trade schools for young adults who may not be able to earn a 4 year degree in some field or other. I'm not against helping anyone. In fact working at a food bank for the elderly has pretty much become my "career" you might as well say. Also we need to get the economy going again, and frankly I don't have the first danged clue how to do it. I'll leave that to someone with experience in that area.
    Those are things that I can agree with easily. I think there are plenty of things that need to be reformed in welfare. But that isn't something the states could not do if they were to simply try to do so. The biggest problems there are cultural clashes and beliefs as well as greed, on both the parts of those who get welfare in some cases (like those you talk about) as well as in those that are on the higher end, that have a lot of power over the spending power and potential resources a family has, whether it is in how much they are paid or how much their expenses are. The rest is pretty much right there where I see things as well (not sure if we'd agree on specifics, but definitely in a general sense it appears). But those aren't things that are generally being restricted by the federal government. The states can do things about those things you mentioned if they are willing to try, which for some places may mean actually bringing in more revenue.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    And really cares about the postal service? Historically speaking they have lost every single time competition appeared in their sector.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    50 cents is significantly lower than $300.00, which was the cost to mail a letter in a time period when the government was the size that the framers and yourself preferred it to be.
    Tell me how much does it cost to send a letter via email? Now colleges have contact links on their webpages, so you don't have to buy a whole freaking roll of stamps to request information from different schools. Wish that had been in place when I was in high school! I used to get stamps from the place where my dad worked just to send off requests for info from this school or that school.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    And ahem and who really cares about the postal service? Historically speaking they have lost every single time competition appeared in their sector.
    They aren't exactly a very profitable service, but we still need them. Not everything is electronic yet
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