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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    I know it takes a lot to change the Constitution. That's why we only have 27 amendments, and one of those was to repeal another. Of course the fact is the states started to really lose their voice when the 17th amendment was adopted. As much as I like being able to have a say in who goes to the Senate from NC, since I don't trust most of the turkeys in Raleigh any further than I can throw them, the states did have more say before the 17th amendment came along.
    Why even add amendments when you get the courts to say the commerce clause grants the federal government to regulate business and individual interactions between people or other such nonsense? People like Rogue never needed the amendment process to do what they wanted, but just corrupt justices.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I think the absurdities you've uttered did it for him.
    Like I said, the facts proved that he was wrong. Oh well. If facts are absurd we're all in big trouble.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    I know it takes a lot to change the Constitution. That's why we only have 27 amendments, and one of those was to repeal another. Of course the fact is the states started to really lose their voice when the 17th amendment was adopted. As much as I like being able to have a say in who goes to the Senate from NC, since I don't trust most of the turkeys in Raleigh any further than I can throw them, the states did have more say before the 17th amendment came along.
    The 14th, not the 17th, took away much of the states' power that I was referring to. That was the power to impose the will of a simple majority over the others living in or even just passing through their state. The 14th made constitutional protections that only applied on a federal level, or when it came to the federal government, available when it came to state interactions as well. This is the Amendment that helped turned us to "the United States is", vice "the United States are".
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why even add amendments when you get the courts to say the commerce clause grants the federal government to regulate business and individual interactions between people or other such nonsense? People like Rogue never needed the amendment process to do what they wanted, but just corrupt justices.
    I know the system ain't perfect, but compared to other countries we do have the best in the world. Sure there have been some stupid court rulings but the judges are not perfect, and frankly neither are the politicians.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    You can't run with the big dogs stay on the porch. I guess the facts got to ya finally huh?
    Yea, that's it.

    One more question: Did the South win or lose the war?

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The 14th, not the 17th, took away much of the states' power that I was referring to. That was the power to impose the will of a simple majority over the others living in or even just passing through their state. The 14th made constitutional protections that only applied on a federal level, or when it came to the federal government, available when it came to state interactions as well. This is the Amendment that helped turned us to "the United States is", vice "the United States are".
    Then why in the world do people fuss about the 17th amendment that gives people the right to elect senators rather than the legislature? If the 14th is worse fuss about it!
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    I know the system ain't perfect, but compared to other countries we do have the best in the world. Sure there have been some stupid court rulings but the judges are not perfect, and frankly neither are the politicians.
    It pretty hard to take a trade dispute clause dealing with governments and turn into a clause that allows the government to regulate private citizens.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Yea, that's it.

    One more question: Did the South win or lose the war?
    Glad you admit the facts won. Yes the south lost the war but in the end they did win when, you might as well face it the federal government has gotten way bigger than it was ever intended to be.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It pretty hard to take a trade dispute clause dealing with governments and turn into a clause that allows the government to regulate private citizens.
    Like I said, they ain't perfect and there have been some stupid rulings.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Then why in the world do people fuss about the 17th amendment that gives people the right to elect senators rather than the legislature? If the 14th is worse fuss about it!
    How would I know? I've heard more fuss about the 14th, at least in that people don't like that it is used to apply to more than just race, as they would prefer (despite it not specifically mentioning race at all in the EPC, which is what does much of the transfer of power.
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