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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    ^ No end to the facepalming /head shaking this young mind delivers.
    Look it up then
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    It is too often the case that some here in the South have constructed their own version of what happened during the Civil War. They cannot face the fact that the Confederacy was both wrong and lost the war.
    Wrong the South was right and frankly current climate proves it
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Wrong the South was right and frankly current climate proves it
    Wow!!!!!!!!! and I'm satisfied that your face is straight as a board while saying that.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wow!!!!!!!!! and I'm satisfied that your face is straight as a board while saying that.
    Explain why the federal government has gotten a lot bigger than it was intended to be then.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Explain why the federal government has gotten a lot bigger than it was intended to be then.
    Because times change and state governments tend to care less about individual rights than the federal government. State governments are much more likely to become tyrannies of the majorities due to having such lower standards to changing their constitutions, the protections granted to their citizens, and in many cases having a less diverse population in power.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Explain why the federal government has gotten a lot bigger than it was intended to be then.
    What does that have to do with anything. And how big was the government intended to be. And why would we care today what guys reading by candle light, and still trotting to a shed in the back yard to take a **** think about what size the federal government should be today? They couldn't conceive that we might ever be able to pollute the air we breath requiring an environmental protection agency to regulate it. Or that we'd have an interstate highway system that would need to be run, or people trying to cross our borders and take from us what we lifted off the Indians, requiring a federal border patrol. They wouldn't have conceived that we'd have airwaves that would need an agency to monitor, or the ability to travel into space that would require a NASA. And so many other things that they couldn't have perceived.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Not even close. The Confederate flag (all 5 of them)_ flew over exactly 0 slave ships. Even the North had slaves. It took the 13th amendment to free ALL of the slaves since Lincoln's joke of an "emancipation proclamation" only freed slaves in the South. The slave trade had been going on forever, and the north only bothered with it when they realized that if the South kicked their butts like they were already doing, then westward expansion was going to be a huge problem for the north because the southern states would expand even further west and then the north would be a supreme disadvantage.
    1. This ignores the historical context of the Confederate flag. The flag was created before the Civil War and used as a symbol to represent a 'nation' that wanted to keep slavery as can be seen in the reasoning for secession behind every Confederate state.

    2. The 13th Amendment does allow for slavery, see the bolded portion. It states that "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." (https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiii)

    3. The Emancipation Proclamation freed slaves being held in specifically rebel states. Southern states that sided with the Union were still allowed to keep their slaves.

    4. The North really didn't need the EP to gain more troops. Simply put, the industrial capacity of the Union states were so great that it outnumbered the South.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wow!!!!!!!!! and I'm satisfied that your face is straight as a board while saying that.
    I'm done discussing this with her. After while she will be telling us that Grant surrendered to Lee!

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Nikki Haley has finally gone off the deep end on this issue

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    Nikki Haley has finally gone off the deep end on this issue
    Strange, off the deep end? Well, you may feel that but 37 of the 40 senators who voted today in South Carolina agreed with her. And that means the majority of Republicans agreed with her. In fact, 37 easily reaches the 2/3 majority needed.
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