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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    So, we should drag it out over decades like we are doing now in the ME? Yea, that's much better. Break our own bank man make thousands of us suffer. Grand idea.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Not like that scum didn't try to force people to starve or freeze to death. NOT a creature I would look up to at all. I have a strong feeling that karma got the last laugh with that one though
    Karma? He lived a happy, prosperous, and highly public life before passing away in his own bed at the age of 71.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    This looks pointless, but I'll play anyway. The Iron Cross had a long and distinguished history prior to and post the Nazi era. It wasn't ever identified AS a uniquely "Nazi" symbol.
    Japan adopted their flag in 1870, so it's also not identified with Pearl Harbor except that it was the Japanese who attacked us. And to my knowledge Hawaii doesn't fly the Japanese flag over any memorial to dead Japanese, killed at Pearl Harbor.

    But these examples are red herrings so you can avoid the history of the Rebel flag. Your state's elected leaders and mine flew it as a signal of defiance against civil rights for blacks, in my lifetime. Sorry, but when it went up in 1961 it didn't mean "Love of the South."



    I believe them, but what you mean is "the vast majority of WHITE Southerners..." Before the current crisis, about 60% of blacks did not share those feelings, and it was them and their ancestors who were oppressed by the STATE through Jim Crow laws those same legislators marched under THAT flag to maintain.

    Like I said, I get the divide, but what's frustrating is the seeming unwillingness to actually acknowledge how your state's leaders used THAT particular flag.



    That's unfair. I'm a southerner, life long, 51 years and I can't wait to bury that relic of history. I think it gives this entire region a bad name. When I see someone with that flag, I don't know how to tell if they're a proud racist or just love the South. Neither does the rest of the world. The killer didn't pick that flag at random. The meaning he ascribed to it is the exact same meaning ascribed to it by state leaders, elected leaders, governors, legislators, all across the South. Frankly to assume blacks are "looking for an excuse" to be offended by that flag is just a dedicated refusal to see why they might not need to look very hard - all they have to do is look at recent history and how that banner was used.
    Isn't it funny when the "flag wavers" talk about its history it is always 19th century history. It's is like the 20th century never happened.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Karma? He lived a happy, prosperous, and highly public life before passing away in his own bed at the age of 71.
    Well when he got to the ol' Pearly Gates I am quite sure that the Lord was not happy with that creature's actions.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironfist17 View Post
    Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag' | US news | The Guardian
    How could it happen that a flag which has always been a symbol of love for the South now represents racism and hatred? I feel sorry for those people who have been sticking confederate flags on their license plates since forever. Now they are all considered bigots and nazis. Maybe it's time to chill up a bit and just forget about one mentally disabled racist who used it as a symbol of his racial hatred? Because it will only distance the southerners from the rest of the country.
    There are a lot of idiots out there that get some worm in their heads and try to make everyone dance their idea of a politically correct polka.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Well when he got to the ol' Pearly Gates I am quite sure that the Lord was not happy with that creature's actions.
    Nah, all his Confederate buddies would vouch for him.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    to the OP: more people get elected President from the SOUTH than any other region of the country(including the one you are probably peeing yourself to vote for in a year in a half). So the "people of the South" must be doing something right, wouldn't you agree?

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Because the Confederate South is KNOWN for its role in slavery, segregation, and racial derision.

    That's how it went down in the history books - Southerners who cling to it surely are smart enough to know that.
    They are also smart enough to understand that this is rather stupid. The confederacy has been gone for a good while and has become folklore, legend and tradition. There are always bigots that want to get this banned or that forbidden and the those people forced to do something else. We used to call them busy bodies. But those were gentler times.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Nah, all his Confederate buddies would vouch for him.
    No Confederate would vouch for sherman. NONE.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    No Confederate would vouch for sherman. NONE.
    Oh nonsense. For example, General Joseph E. Johnston and Sherman were the closest of friends after the end of the war, Johnston went so far as to serve as Sherman's pallbearer. Despite the cold and rain when he was told to put his hat back on he gave the famous reply "If I were in his place and he were standing here in mine, he would not put on his hat." Nor would the General tolerate any ill to be spoken of Sherman in his presence.

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