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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Again, the official reason was the 100 year anniversary of the Civil War. Any claim to the contrary is ultimately conjecture and hearsay.

    Either way, the flag certainly doesn't stand for segregation now, and doesn't fly over the capital anymore. Who the Hell cares?
    It now stands for white Southern conservatives who generally have a disdainful view of black people.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    It now stands for white Southern conservatives who generally have a disdainful view of black people.
    According to whom, exactly? Bigoted Northerners and melodramatic Leftists?

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Again, the official reason was the 100 year anniversary of the Civil War. Any claim to the contrary is ultimately conjecture and hearsay.

    Either way, the flag certainly doesn't stand for segregation now, and doesn't fly over the capital anymore. Who the Hell cares?
    What does it stand for then? The South lost the Civil war. It is the flag of treasonous losers if it is not the flag of the segregationist Dixiecrats . This is what a historian says.

    In the year 2000, the state legislature of South Carolina effected a compromise. At least, they called it a compromise—in reality, it was not. They took [the flag] down from the capitol dome and put it right smack on the state capitol grounds. So, it was even more visible after 2000 than before. And this brought the NAACP of South Carolina to call for a boycott of the state, and in fact many organizations refuse to hold their annual conventions in South Carolina.

    It’s remained a contentious issue for the past 15 years because if you’re African American, and you walk by that flag, it’s a government endorsement of slavery [and] white supremacy. For African Americans, that’s what the flag stood for and that’s what the flag stands for. And the history of the flag certainly undergirds that interpretation.
    The HISTORY of the flag is what makes it offensive.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    According to whom, exactly? Bigoted Northerners and melodramatic Leftists?
    Why don't we see liberal black Southerners flying or defending the flag? Oh, right.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    What does it stand for then? The South lost the Civil war. It is the flag of treasonous losers if is not the flag of the Dixiecrats .
    Well, obviously - seeing as how it's flying over a war memorial - it stands for the Southern soldiers who fought and died in the Civil War, and the historical heritage that represents.

    If certain African Americans - actively looking for an excuse to be offended - can't get that through their thick skulls, that's frankly their problem, not mine. It's not a position which is universal within the Southern African American community anyway.





    There is also a Black History monument on the other side of the State House grounds, in case you've forgotten.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Why don't we see liberal black Southerners flying or defending the flag? Oh, right.
    Some do... Though I doubt most of them are "Liberal."


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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Well, obviously - seeing as how it's flying over a war memorial - it stands for the Southern soldiers who fought and died in the Civil War, and the historical heritage that represents.

    If certain African Americans - actively looking for an excuse to be offended - can't get that through their thick skulls, that's frankly their problem, not mine. It's not a position which is universal within the Southern African American community anyway.





    There is also a Black History monument on the other side of the State House grounds, in case you've forgotten.
    Boy do those guys look unhappy. I wonder who held a gun on them for those pics? Defending that flag is like defending the robes of the KKK because they started as a neighborhood defense organization. It's not even a Confederate flag, it's the Flag of General Lee, who practically single handedly lost the Civil war for the South and nearly 300,000 Confederates died. What is this southern fascination with losers about? My county in Florida is named for him and he never even set foot here.
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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Boy do those guys look unhappy.
    He doesn't.



    Defending that flag is like defending the robes of the KKK because they started as a neighborhood defense organization.
    That is only your opinion, nothing more.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Well, obviously - seeing as how it's flying over a war memorial - it stands for the Southern soldiers who fought and died in the Civil War, and the historical heritage that represents.
    Just FYI, the black person in that photo has a unique interpretation of the flag, completely divorced from what the flag is intended to represent. He was on CNN. It would be like if someone chose to view the Nazi flag as an homage to Oscar Schindler for saving Jews.

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    Re: Nikki Haley: 'I could not look my kids in the face and justify that flag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Just FYI, the black person in that photo has a unique interpretation of the flag, completely divorced from what the flag is intended to represent. He was on CNN. It would be like if someone chose to view the Nazi flag as an homage to Oscar Schindler for saving Jews.
    And what do you think it is "intended to represent," exactly?

    I saw the interview. He said that, for him, it represented Southern culture and Southern heritage. That's pretty much exactly the same thing it represents for me.

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