Page 7 of 23 FirstFirst ... 5678917 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 229

Thread: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

  1. #61
    Sage
    Chagos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    in expatria
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    9,094

    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    greek politicians announced they would not repay their debt until germany paid for war damages, which seems quite fair to me
    yeah, well Germany may pay back when France pays for the damages that Napoleon (and before him Louis Quatorze) wreaked upon German lands.

    Not to mention when Rome pays for what its legions did 2,000 years ago.

    Get a grip.

  2. #62
    Global Moderator
    Old stary eyes
    Andalublue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Granada, España
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:21 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    23,677

    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Chagos View Post
    Actually it has absolutely nothing to do with socialism, no matter what Syriza's leaning.

    Cognitive dissonance, inflicted or self-induced, can strike anyone, given the right circumstances. Most of those that voted "Xoi" today never voted Syriza.
    It's 'oxi', not xoi. And no, it is probably about 2/3 of the no voters who were Syriza voters. Their success in convincing non-Syriza voters to vote no is quite impressive however.
    "The crisis will end when fear changes sides" - Pablo Iglesias Turrión

    "Austerity is used as a cover to reconfigure society and increase inequality and injustice." - Jeremy Corbyn

  3. #63
    Sage
    Chagos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    in expatria
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    9,094

    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Yes, we're back to Square One. Let's start again, because the consequences of Grexit will be hideously more expensive for everyone than a restructured debt agreement.
    Nobody has any credible idea of what consequences giving in to Greece will have on those that have borne a far heavier load within the EU. And thus will cost in the long run.

    The sum a Grexit will entail is fairly well known.

    Just saying

  4. #64
    Sage
    Chagos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    in expatria
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    9,094

    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Well, it has had such an impact. So off you go.
    Constant mantra-ing does not make content any more true.

  5. #65
    Sage
    Chagos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    in expatria
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    9,094

    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Unless the IMF are resigned to writing off their debt, with Greece in permanent default for the foreseeable future, they'd be best advised to come back to the negotiating table.
    IMF has to go thru a lengthy process of first sending reminders, then claims and then suing.

    But as indicated, your guess is as good as mine so let's wait and see.

  6. #66
    Global Moderator
    Old stary eyes
    Andalublue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Granada, España
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:21 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    23,677

    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Chagos View Post
    Constant mantra-ing does not make content any more true.
    I've no idea what that comment means.
    "The crisis will end when fear changes sides" - Pablo Iglesias Turrión

    "Austerity is used as a cover to reconfigure society and increase inequality and injustice." - Jeremy Corbyn

  7. #67
    Sage
    Chagos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    in expatria
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    9,094

    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    It's 'oxi', not xoi. And no, it is probably about 2/3 of the no voters who were Syriza voters. Their success in convincing non-Syriza voters to vote no is quite impressive however.
    Typo, having some Greek I know that it's Oshee. Depends where one goes though.

    The math seems a bit off though, but no matter. Landslide is landslide.

  8. #68
    Sage
    Chagos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    in expatria
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    9,094

    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I've no idea what that comment means.
    it's a repetitive prayer in Buddhism, a form of meditation

  9. #69
    Sage

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    New York
    Last Seen
    12-06-16 @ 09:56 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    11,646

    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Chagos View Post
    No, it hasn't increased ELA and it doesn't sound (even on a Sunday) like it's going to in the immediate future.

    For it to act now when any negotiations in Brussels will find a pre-conference not earlier than Tuesday, it would have to go against its own statutes. Not to mention EU law.
    Its decision will be early tomorrow. I suspect it will hold things as they are tomorrow. Afterward, a lot will depend on Europe's political leaders and whether Greece makes a serious effort to negotiate a new package.

  10. #70
    #NeverHillary
    eohrnberger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:04 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    18,752
    Blog Entries
    11

    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Don't know if this was posted earlier, but . . .
    With almost all the ballots counted, results from the Greek referendum show voters decisively rejecting the terms of an international bailout.
    Figures published by the interior ministry showed 61% of those whose ballots had been counted voting "No", against 39% voting "Yes".
    Greece's governing Syriza party had campaigned for a "No", saying the bailout terms were humiliating.
    Their opponents warned that this could see Greece ejected from the eurozone.
    Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras said late on Sunday that Greeks had voted for a "Europe of solidarity and democracy".
    "As of tomorrow, Greece will go back to the negotiating table and our primary priority is to reinstate the financial stability of the country," he said in a televised address.
    Greece debt crisis: Greek voters reject bailout offer - BBC News

    "As of tomorrow, Greece will go back to the negotiating table and our primary priority is to reinstate the financial stability of the country,"

    If that's the case, wouldn't one of the first things that needs to be done be that the Greece government NOT spending more than it takes in?
    That it crack down on tax cheats?

    Just thinking that if the US government continues on the same spending track, this may be the future awaiting the US. And on that vein, it's better to deal with the problem earlier rather than later, rather than letting the problem continue to grow and get worse. It's not going to get better unless there are some reforms, such as a balanced budget constitutional amendment.

    Heck, don't all the states have such an constitutional clause? Don't the governors and the state legislators have to comply with the same constraints?
    Nancy Pelosi said: “We have to pass it, to find out what’s in it.” A Doctor called to a radio show & said: "That's the definition of a stool sample"
    "Under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket," Barack Obama January 2008

Page 7 of 23 FirstFirst ... 5678917 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •