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    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    They are all Caucasians.
    Indeed. Not that any of it matters.

    Nevertheless people of a long biological history in one and the same geographical location, often show a distinctiveness of some features differing from those of places further way. Probably (though) with nearly as many exceptions to the "rule" as confirmations.

    But jihadists are easy to spot, the girls scarper around in walking tents and the men can hardly walk upright, what with all the Semtex they're carrying in their waistcoats.


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    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Well, the convoluted nature of your analogy could have made either interpretation of your typo possible, although I'd point out that Greece has never had any major Arab colonisation, invasion or overlordship.
    Indeed not.

    Twere those filthy Turks that really sucked.

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    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Frodly View Post
    That was a lot of words to say the same thing, you have nothing substantive to say. Just stick with that. You have nothing substantive to say, so you resort to ad hominem and appeal to your own authority based on the fact that you "ARE in Spain." Rarely have I ever seen such an absurd appeal to authority in my life. Your current place of residence couldn't be less relevant. Your complete lack of economic understanding is what matters, and it shines through, since you have failed to present a single substantive argument.
    You still here (on my monitor)?


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    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Whereas this detracts at least geographically from the topic, to those that do not share Andalublue's and my "totally irrelevant" place of residence and the lack of economic understanding of our country's situation that must subsequently result from this irrelevance, here's something from 2012

    Spain real estate ‘madness’ continues despite burst housing bubble | Financial Post

    To wit (excerpt):
    “It’s a small-scale example of the madness that gripped the whole real estate industry.” In the stages of death of a real estate boom, Spain is still in denial......................... They continue to build even with 2 million homes vacant around the country, new airports that never saw a single flight being mothballed, and property appraisers and banks reporting values have fallen only about 22%, said Encinar, who estimates the real decline is probably at least twice that.
    Encinar was mistaken, the decline was/is far bigger.

    Now back on topic.
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    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Well, the convoluted nature of your analogy could have made either interpretation of your typo possible, although I'd point out that Greece has never had any major Arab colonisation, invasion or overlordship.
    I'm not suggesting that it would be invaded, colonized, or overlorded. I believe I said "switching station."

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/25/europe...terrorism-hub/

    It is the Atlanta for Terrorism. Sorry. I don't know why I like using analogies. But to be more serious: it is a hub. A good place to change papers. A crippled government, and a lot of people you could easily blend with if you so desired.
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    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Chagos View Post
    Whereas this detracts at least geographically from the topic, to those that do not share Andalublue's and my "totally irrelevant" place of residence and the lack of economic understanding of our country's situation that must subsequently result from this irrelevance, here's something from 2012

    Spain real estate ‘madness’ continues despite burst housing bubble | Financial Post

    To wit (excerpt): Encinar was mistaken, the decline was/is far bigger.

    Now back on topic.
    Generally I agree with you, although I'd call the 'Housing Bubble' a construction bubble, since it was also those ill-advised infrastructure investments - add to unused airports, toll-roads that no one uses, hundreds of theatres, sports halls, museums, aquaria and thematic tourist attractions that could never pay their way and which now sit idle because no one can afford to operate them - that caused the problem here. The Spanish economy, despite all that talking-up that the PP and its EU supporters are engaged in, is not in recovery. Unemployment has shown no sign of significant falls, and the business environment hasn't improved one bit; I know I've just started a company and having the experience to compare Spanish and British bureaucracy, there's no comparison.

    Corruption is as bad as ever and there's a new major, multi-million scam or fraud - usually of public funds, usually by conservative politicians - coming to light every week. The latest is a scam devised and carried out by the director of the Alhambra Palace (don't forget, all such public posts are political appointments), here in Granada, with kick-backs, over-billing and diversion of funds to private accounts. It never stops, and if Podemos is to make major inroads at the coming elections, it won't be because Spaniards want to emulate the example of Syriza in Greece, but because the corruption of the main two traditional parties has destroyed the public's confidence in establishment politicians and the big businessmen who are their clients.
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    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post

    It is the Atlanta for Terrorism. Sorry. I don't know why I like using analogies.
    Yeah, I'd get a handle on that if I were you. 'Atlanta for Terrorism' means literally nothing to me. What is Atlanta famous for, except Coca-Cola?
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    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Yeah, I'd get a handle on that if I were you. 'Atlanta for Terrorism' means literally nothing to me. What is Atlanta famous for, except Coca-Cola?


    Lol really? The biggest joke about Atlanta is: "what is there except coke and a delta hub?
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    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post


    Lol really? The biggest joke about Atlanta is: "what is there except coke and a delta hub?
    I see. Do you really think anyone but Americans would know what the biggest hub airport in the SE USA would be? I didn't even know Delta airlines was still flying. How about TWA? Braniff?
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    Re: Greece referendum: Early results show 'No' vote ahead

    Regarding Greece's request for ESM support:

    Luxembourg Finance Minister Pierre Gramegna told parliament on Wednesday that the Eurogroup of euro zone finance ministers would ask the European Commission and European Central Bank to review Greece's request for a bailout...

    Gramegna described the loan request lodged by Greece with the ESM earlier on Wednesday as "extremely vague" in its proposals of tax and pension reforms.


    UPDATE 1-Eurogroup to request analysis of Greek loan request -Luxembourg | Reuters

    The current Syriza-led government certainly doesn't make things easy with its frittering away time while Greece's banks remain largely shuttered and its people suffer.

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