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    Obama Plans Broader Use of Clemency to Free Nonviolent Drug Offenders

    Hey, good job, Obama. It was obviously commendable of you to release several dozen nonviolent drug offenders.

    WASHINGTON — Sometime in the next few weeks, aides expect President Obama to issue orders freeing dozens of federal prisoners locked up on nonviolent drug offenses. With the stroke of his pen, he will probably commute more sentences at one time than any president has in nearly half a century.


    The expansive use of his clemency power is part of a broader effort by Mr. Obama to correct what he sees as the excesses of the past, when politicians eager to be tough on crime threw away the key even for minor criminals. With many Republicans and Democrats now agreeing that the nation went too far, Mr. Obama holds the power to unlock that prison door, especially for young African-American and Hispanic men disproportionately affected.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/04/us...ders.html?_r=0

    Now just one suggestion, if I may: Replace the word "dozens" with "all" and you'll be on the right track. Nobody should be in prison for this crap. We're starting down the path to UHC (very slowly, but I feel surely) and we've legalized same sex marriage. It's time to evolve.

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    Re: Obama Plans Broader Use of Clemency to Free Nonviolent Drug Offenders

    When liberals say something is evolution are they even looking at history? How can growing dependence on the group be evolution? Wouldn't it make more sense to say that if people become more dependent on each other that they are actually devolving, not evolving?

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    Re: Obama Plans Broader Use of Clemency to Free Nonviolent Drug Offenders

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Hey, good job, Obama. It was obviously commendable of you to release several dozen nonviolent drug offenders.



    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/04/us...ders.html?_r=0

    Now just one suggestion, if I may: Replace the word "dozens" with "all" and you'll be on the right track. Nobody should be in prison for this crap. We're starting down the path to UHC (very slowly, but I feel surely) and we've legalized same sex marriage. It's time to evolve.
    It is a poor way of going about it. Make legalization an issue. It is no good to leave it illegal but not punish offenders. We need a government that applies law at its own discretion like a hole in the head.

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    Re: Obama Plans Broader Use of Clemency to Free Nonviolent Drug Offenders

    All 'recreational' drugs (including heroin) should be legal to use.

    It is NONE of the government's business what sane, consenting adults put inside their bodies.

    If I want to drink battery acid - that is my business.


    Good for you Obama.
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    Re: Obama Plans Broader Use of Clemency to Free Nonviolent Drug Offenders

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Hey, good job, Obama. It was obviously commendable of you to release several dozen nonviolent drug offenders.



    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/04/us...ders.html?_r=0

    Now just one suggestion, if I may: Replace the word "dozens" with "all" and you'll be on the right track. Nobody should be in prison for this crap. We're starting down the path to UHC (very slowly, but I feel surely) and we've legalized same sex marriage. It's time to evolve.
    well, this is a policy directive i can get behind... it would be much much better if we had legislation, though... hell, it would be much much better if we had a president who acknowledges Congress even exists, let alone tries to do things the proper way.

    as an aside, anytime a modern liberal says we need to "evolve"... I get shivers....as modern liberals are generally illiberal on everything but social issues, i don't trust any of you to guide this "evolution"... kindly hold off until i die...kthxbye.

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    Re: Obama Plans Broader Use of Clemency to Free Nonviolent Drug Offenders

    While I agree with the release of non-violent drug offenders, I find the OP's use of "evolution" as somewhat dishonest; what he refers to as "evolution", is progress that fits with his paradigm of how the world should be, not necessarily in the biological/natural definition.

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    Re: Obama Plans Broader Use of Clemency to Free Nonviolent Drug Offenders

    Obama Plans Broader Use of Clemency to Free Nonviolent Drug Offenders
    good. keeping them locked up is a waste of prison resources.

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    Re: Obama Plans Broader Use of Clemency to Free Nonviolent Drug Offenders

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    good. keeping them locked up is a waste of prison resources.
    Then change the law. Populist discretion is not a good development of our present society.

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    Re: Obama Plans Broader Use of Clemency to Free Nonviolent Drug Offenders

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Then change the law. Populist discretion is not a good development of our present society.
    i'm for changing the law, as well.

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    Re: Obama Plans Broader Use of Clemency to Free Nonviolent Drug Offenders

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'm for changing the law, as well.
    Do that first. Law should not be discretionarily dispensed. That is far worse than a bad law.

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