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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you didn't answer my question please show me the verse and scripture that says gay marriage is ok.
    no Episcopalians follow the bible so please backup your claim.

    I will be waiting for verse and scripture.
    LOL, of course you're right and they are wrong. And BILLIONS out there are convinced you're wrong and they're right, many of them Christians.

    If you want me to defend your or anyone else's interpretation of the bible or their religion, you will have a long wait. I make no claims to having the definitive understanding of God's will.

    As I said, the great thing about this country is you're free to have and live your life as you see fit in accordance with your religion, and those with different beliefs and religions are entitled to that same right.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I'll just say I don't think that's fair.
    Life isn't fair, God on the other hand is fair and is just.

    My brother is a very religious person and also gay. The two aren't incompatible, at least not in his view or the view of the church he attends.
    Please show me where I said that a gay person could not be saved?

    You will disagree, and that's fine and why there are so many different religions and denominations and even practices within each denomination. All of them are in my view doing their best to interpret God's will and fundamentally good people trying to do the right thing have throughout all of human history had deep disagreements on what that is. I'm not prepared to say that there is any one of them that has it correct.
    To re-write the word of God or make it say something other than what it says is heretical.
    again you have failed to post scripture and verse that supports that gay marriage is ok please do so.
    again I will be waiting.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    LOL, of course you're right and they are wrong. And BILLIONS out there are convinced you're wrong and they're right, many of them Christians.

    If you want me to defend your or anyone else's interpretation of the bible or their religion, you will have a long wait. I make no claims to having the definitive understanding of God's will.

    As I said, the great thing about this country is you're free to have and live your life as you see fit in accordance with your religion, and those with different beliefs and religions are entitled to that same right.
    please quote verse and scripture what it says that marriage is anything but a man and a women like you claimed.
    I am waiting.

    anyting else you posts is just distraction arguments because you can't backup what you said.

    No I want you to defend YOUR interpretation of the bible. so please quote the bible verse and scripture that agrees with you.
    I am still waiting for you to prove to me that the bible says that gay marriage is ok.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    My father used to say that the greatest strength of the Episcopal Church was also its greatest weakness: Its attempts to be all things to all people. So you have those who are "low-church" and who regard themselves as Protestants and call their rectors a "minister" and others who are "High-Church" and regard themselves as "Anglo-Catholic" and call their rectors "Father," and etc.
    High church would be my preference. Since Vatican II it's more Catholic than the Roman Catholic Church.










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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Life isn't fair, God on the other hand is fair and is just.

    Please show me where I said that a gay person could not be saved?

    To re-write the word of God or make it say something other than what it says is heretical.
    again you have failed to post scripture and verse that supports that gay marriage is ok please do so.
    again I will be waiting.
    Keep waiting. I don't mean this to insult you, but I really don't care about (am indifferent to) your interpretation of the Bible, and who you think has it wrong, and I'm not going to defend or argue on behalf of those you disagree with. All I'm noting is I believe (my own opinion is) that men and women of good will and a legitimate desire to live according to God's will DO (billions of them) disagree with you and are as positive you are wrong as you are certain they are.

    The end.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Christians in name only. If you don't adhere to scripture, you're a fake. The Bible wasn't meant to be redefined or rewritten...only reread.
    So I am guessing you stand in Solidarity with your faction of Christianity when it refuses to marry those who have been divorced to a different spouse other than their first... is that correct?

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I'm not surprised. MY Mil is a closet Liberal who was married to an extreme Conservative until his recent death. She's an Episcopalian who can give communion.
    How dare she be able to give communion right???


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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    They split from the Anglican Church (remained in the communion) and founded the Episcopal Church.
    The Church of England WAS the Episcopal Church before the name change and the revolutionary war. The reason they changed the name is because anything English was radioactive to the Americans and anything American was radioactive to the British, but otherwise it was the same bunch, the same clergy, same congregations.


    If you are a social conservative, then you are probably not an Episcopalian.
    Not anymore. Heretics like John Spong saw to that.

    Sure the church has last members over the last few decades, but so has every other denomination other than those that benefit from increased membership due to immigration.
    They've lost members because of their departure from scripture AND their own 39 Articles of Religion.

    Why would you hope for the church to fail due to further declining membership? That seems like a fairly mean spirited position to me.
    The Episcopal Church stopped being a Church a long time ago, it's just a social club.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    The Episcopal Church stopped being a Church a long time ago, it's just a social club.
    This will come as a great surprise to a good number of my religious friends who attend the local Episcopalian Church. I'm sure they'll be glad when I let them know, so they can find a 'real' church.....LOL.

    As an aside, this is why I avoid religious debates in person like the plague. By its very nature, there can be no "proof" offered in those debates, only opinions based on faith. So my working rule (outside my closest friends and family) is to not say one word.... Just let the conversation take another course or exit the conversation.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    High church would be my preference. Since Vatican II it's more Catholic than the Roman Catholic Church.
    LOL, well, I'm not sure I'd go that far.

    I was reared exceedingly High-Church. There are Episcopal churches that are very socially conservative as well as those which are liberal.

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