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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    No you are trying to make the Christian definition of murder ambiguous by using disparities on how secular govts define murder.
    No. Murder is unlawful killing. That is the definition of murder. There are relatively only a few murders mentioned in the Bible, but plenty of cases of justified homicide, including a woman being raped in the city who doesn't call for help and killing gay people and witches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    We arent talking about killing as a judicial punishment but murder for the sake of murder because s9meone thinks its not against the Bible
    You are seriously confusing the definitions of killing and murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You are seriously confusing the definitions of killing and murder.
    Im not confusing anything, I made it clear that my question was about premeditated cold blooded murder that no one would argue wasnt murder and instead of answering the question honestly everyone is talking about the definition of murder to skirt admitting the hypocrisy of their position

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Im not confusing anything, I made it clear that my question was about premeditated cold blooded murder that no one would argue wasnt murder and instead of answering the question honestly everyone is talking about the definition of murder to skirt admitting the hypocrisy of their position
    There are people who would argue that though. But besides that, the contention was not just about one instance of what "thou shalt not kill" covers, but rather all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There are people who would argue that though. But besides that, the contention was not just about one instance of what "thou shalt not kill" covers, but rather all of them.
    The question is, is someone still a Christian if they claim to be a Christian and they continually commit cold blooded premeditated murder under the insistence that the Bible doesnt say its a sin?

    There are only 2 answers. either yes that anyone who says the are a Christian is one no matter the blatant disregard for the Bible or no that such an obvious breech of God's law means they can not be considered a Christian no matter what they claim.

    Yall seem to have created a third option. Where either you are not a Christian and have to basis to really discuss the issue or you are a Christian and have so little conviction in your faith you cant even admit that is an act that could be universally be considered murder by all Christians.

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    Silly protesters...

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

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    We aren't the only creatures on earth that breathe. Nor were we even close to the first.
    Anyone who is familiar with Genesis knows God created the plants and animals first. Your point?
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
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    From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

    The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

    If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

    Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

    This is what the Lord of hosts has to say: 'I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.' (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)





    Just to name a few
    That was God doling out punishment to those who went against his children.
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
    Matt. 10:32-33

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    The question is, is someone still a Christian if they claim to be a Christian and they continually commit cold blooded premeditated murder under the insistence that the Bible doesnt say its a sin?

    There are only 2 answers. either yes that anyone who says the are a Christian is one no matter the blatant disregard for the Bible or no that such an obvious breech of God's law means they can not be considered a Christian no matter what they claim.

    Yall seem to have created a third option. Where either you are not a Christian and have to basis to really discuss the issue or you are a Christian and have so little conviction in your faith you cant even admit that is an act that could be universally be considered murder by all Christians.
    Yes, they are still Christian because you haven't even given the scenario of the "cold blooded murder", plus it is not necessary to completely believe in or follow the Bible to be a Christian, only to try to follow Jesus, or what they believe Jesus taught.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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