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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    The Presiding Bishop of Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (as distinguished from the Missouri Synod),the Rev. Elizabeth Eaton, stated in her pastoral letter to her 3.8 million congregants that decisions on both same-gender and hetero marriages both are going to be left to individual congregations, saying, " This decision affects each of us, some profoundly, and we are not of one mind.” Evangelical Lutheran Church in America releases letter on SCOTUS marriage ruling | Episcopal Cafe
    The Rev Elizabeth Eaton? Elizabeth? A "Reverend".... How is she a reverend if she is to remain silent?

    Clearly they were not following the scripture and teachings of christ anyways..... they are not "real christians" huh Countryboy?

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Christ also didn't say anything about rape or pedophilia. He did define marriage as a union between a man and a woman, and the New Testament is pretty clear on the subject.
    Its also pretty clear on the subject that women need to STFU and make me a sammich...

    And that Slaves need to obey their earthly masters and serve them well.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Christians in name only. If you don't adhere to scripture, you're a fake. The Bible wasn't meant to be redefined or rewritten...only reread.
    Yeah, but there are several versions of the bible with variences in interpretation, and we have how many Christian sects? I mean, if it were all the unbiased, unadulterated truth with only one interpretation, shouldn't there be only one sect of Christianity?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Its also pretty clear on the subject that women need to STFU and make me a sammich...
    That is incorrect. A direct reading of the text lends itself to the argument that women are not to teach doctrine in Church to mixed-gender groups. Men, if anything, are supposed to serve women to a greater degree than women are supposed to serve men.

    And that Slaves need to obey their earthly masters and serve them well.
    And that is partially correct. Greek had a single word that covered everything that we would recognize as chattel slavery to bond-servants, similar to the indentured servants who made up many of our early settlers. Paul seems to have written that the latter should obey their masters (Seneca, for example, estimated that most worked off their debts and earned freedom within 7 years), and declared that those who captured / sold chattel slaves were acting in ways antithetical to the faith.

    Broadly, Paul was less concerned with the particulars of your physical situation than how you acted in them.
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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Abandoned their faith? Like all the churches that accept without question the adulterers and fornicators? And I dont mean past sins, but currently sinning [[cpwill adds a context that he thinks you meant - "and unrepentant"]]. Take their donations and church offerings, marry them without question, etc?
    Well, yes.
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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, but there are several versions of the bible with variences in interpretation, and we have how many Christian sects? I mean, if it were all the unbiased, unadulterated truth with only one interpretation, shouldn't there be only one sect of Christianity?
    Far too few seem to understand this.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, but there are several versions of the bible with variences in interpretation, and we have how many Christian sects? I mean, if it were all the unbiased, unadulterated truth with only one interpretation, shouldn't there be only one sect of Christianity?
    A lot of it has to do with simply dismissing or overlooking certain scripture to fit the cultural mood. It's flat out wrong to do that.

    In the case of homosexuality, God is quite clear.
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    A lot of it has to do with simply dismissing or overlooking certain scripture to fit the cultural mood. It's flat out wrong to do that.

    In the case of homosexuality, God is quite clear.
    Oh, so your interpretation of the Bible is the correct one, yeah? Which Christian sect is the right one?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Oh, so your interpretation of the Bible is the correct one, yeah? Which Christian sect is the right one?
    The Bible is pretty clear on Homosexuality regardless of which interpretation you use.
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