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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Actually, there are 26 bible verses where Jesus said he was the "Son of God". As a Christian, how come you didn't know that?
    You persist in trying to drag this thread off-topic. The topic is the Episcopal Church voting yes to performing single-sex marriages, not whether "other Christians can judge another for not being real Christians based on their interpretation of the bible" or whether the LDS are Christians or whether a "real Christian" would know the number of Bible verses in which Jesus said He was the Son of God.

    BTW, I didn't know the number and don't care. What I do care about is discussing this decision by the Episcopal Church and other mainline denoms that may follow suit.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    You persist in trying to drag this thread off-topic. The topic is the Episcopal Church voting yes to performing single-sex marriages, not whether "other Christians can judge another for not being real Christians based on their interpretation of the bible" or whether the LDS are Christians or whether a "real Christian" would know the number of Bible verses in which Jesus said He was the Son of God.

    BTW, I didn't know the number and don't care. What I do care about is discussing this decision by the Episcopal Church and other mainline denoms that may follow suit.
    Well, I beg to differ nota bene. From the OP...

    It looks like some Christians don't see a problem with approving of same sex marriage. I wonder how many will say this just 'proves' Episcopalians aren't 'real' Christians
    She wanted to see how many would say Episcopalians weren't real Christians. And then you came in and started defending the guy that said they weren't. lol So where do you stand on the issue, nota bene? Are you a "real" Christian?

    But I can understand how you might want to control the thread and only want to talk about what you want to talk about. But there are other people besides you who would also like to talk about the topic in the OP. But frankly, I don't see why people can't do both. You can talk to people about what you want to and I can talk to people about what to. That's fair, isn't it?

    Btw, if I belonged to an organized religion, it would be Episcopalian.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    That's nice. Then maybe you'd like to stick to the stipulated topic in the baiting "speculation" of the OP: Episcopalians and what "others" might be saying about them.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    That's nice. Then maybe you'd like to stick to the stipulated topic in the baiting "speculation" of the OP: Episcopalians and what "others" might be saying about them.
    I see your point and admittedly I did kinda did stray from the on going discussion a bit. It wasn't my intention, it just kind of happened. So anyway, please accept my apologies for any disturbance I may have caused to the thread.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    I have to question their religious faith at this point and the fact that they have abandoned God word to make men happy there will be a split in the church and people will leave and the church will drop in attendance.

    Paul even wrote against this as well.
    Abandoned their faith? Like all the churches that accept without question the adulterers and fornicators? And I dont mean past sins, but currently sinning. Take their donations and church offerings, marry them without question, etc?

    (And I dont mean the Catholic Church here)
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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Then they are free to remain Methodists.

    It is like if I wanted to remain Catholic, but insisted that in order for me to remain Catholic, the Catholic Church needed to adopt Sola Scriptura... .
    The rejection of Sola Scriptura by the Catholic and the various Orthodox churches mirrors Judaism. In addition, Christ was not a Sola Scriptura teacher. If he was, then he would have needed to allow the adultress to be stoned, probably would not have asked the Samaritan woman for a drink of water and would not have allowed the disciples to pick grain on the Sabbath.
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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Oh, you don't wonder at all; you hope they will. That's the real purpose of this OP.

    And all it "proves" is that you know very little about the Episcopal Church and what's been going on since the late '80's and early '90's. Pro-tip: Google " Bishop Spong." This decision is no surprise at all.
    I actually know all about that and have studied the evidence concerning doubts that the Bible actually says anything at all about homosexuality. Few are willing to dive into such a study and doubt the translation they hold, but that really isn't the point. Clearly some churches will marry same sex couples. There will be no governmental force to make that happen.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    The rejection of Sola Scriptura by the Catholic and the various Orthodox churches mirrors Judaism. In addition, Christ was not a Sola Scriptura teacher. If he was, then he would have needed to allow the adultress to be stoned, probably would not have asked the Samaritan woman for a drink of water and would not have allowed the disciples to pick grain on the Sabbath.
    Well, that's a debate for elsewhere, but also irrelevant to the point.
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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    It's not a dodge, do a little due diligence. I don't keep track of all denominations. A couple of major ones that openly flout Scripture are the Mormons and Watchtower Society. Then there are tiny churches that are obviously not Christian, like the Phelps organization. Any denomination which supports SSM, is clearly not following Scripture.

    Are you even a believer?
    Considering there are so many different denominations, and the reasons why there are so many different denominations (different interpretation of the meaning of scripture)...

    NOBODY can claim that another denomination is not following scripture, as all of them view scripture differently.

    You can claim that a specific church isn't following "Baptist Principles" for example, if they go against what the baptists as a whole believe in when it comes to scripture..

    But you can't claim that "EVERYONE WHO ISN'T METHODIST IS WRONG" or something similar.....

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I'm sure that's going to be news them. I agree with you about the BoM and Joseph Smith but that doesn't negate the fact LDS do strive to live the teachings of Christ as opposed to just giving it lip service on Sundays and sinning the rest of the week.
    OH you didn't know?

    All you have to do is ask for forgiveness and accept Jesus Christ into your heart and he will forgive all sins....


    Except 'dem damned gays...... Im sure its in the bible somewhere....

    It doesn't matter if you've lived a life of sin (except if you are gay, then it matters), you can ask for forgiveness and be forgiven. But don't wait to do it before you die.... You need to do it early enough to be able to contribute to the Church's Coffers first..........

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