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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    The nature of the Jesus Mormons believe in, is not of the Bible. The Book of Mormon is also not of the Bible, and Joseph Smith was a charlatan. But Nota is right, this thread is about the Episcopalians.
    I'm sure that's going to be news them. I agree with you about the BoM and Joseph Smith but that doesn't negate the fact LDS do strive to live the teachings of Christ as opposed to just giving it lip service on Sundays and sinning the rest of the week.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I'm sure that's going to be news them. I agree with you about the BoM and Joseph Smith but that doesn't negate the fact LDS do strive to live the teachings of Christ as opposed to just giving it lip service on Sundays and sinning the rest of the week.
    That is commendable, and they do a lot of good works. But they eschew the nature of Christ and God's word. So, not Christian.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    The Presiding Bishop of Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (as distinguished from the Missouri Synod),the Rev. Elizabeth Eaton, stated in her pastoral letter to her 3.8 million congregants that decisions on both same-gender and hetero marriages both are going to be left to individual congregations, saying, " This decision affects each of us, some profoundly, and we are not of one mind.” Evangelical Lutheran Church in America releases letter on SCOTUS marriage ruling | Episcopal Cafe

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    The Presiding Bishop of Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (as distinguished from the Missouri Synod),the Rev. Elizabeth Eaton, stated in her pastoral letter to her 3.8 million congregants that decisions on both same-gender and hetero marriages both are going to be left to individual congregations, saying, " This decision affects each of us, some profoundly, and we are not of one mind.” Evangelical Lutheran Church in America releases letter on SCOTUS marriage ruling | Episcopal Cafe
    This is nothing new, and has been their policy for some time now. LGBT ministers have been ordained by the ELCA since 2010.

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    That is commendable, and they do a lot of good works. But they eschew the nature of Christ and God's word. So, not Christian.
    They don't eschew it more than any other denomination.

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    "...After the 2008 nomination of Sarah Palin for Vice President of the United States, senior pastor Ed Kalnins' preaching was scrutinized by the media.[3] His sermons were available on the church website. USA Today reported the Huffington Post assertion that "Kalnins has preached that critics of President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned whether people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted into heaven; and preached that the Sept. 11 attacks and the war in Iraq were part of a world war over Christianity".[4] Kalnins preached "I believe that Alaska is one of the refuge states... in the Last Days, and hundreds of thousands of people are going to come to this state to seek refuge. And the church has to ready to minister to them".[5]
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    Somehow I don't think any of that is what Jesus had in mind, taught or died for....and I question your authority to speak for him and pass judgment in God's name. I'm pretty sure the bible condemns you for doing it, too.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Anyone up for some bacon-wrapped shrimp? It's sacrilicious.
    Jesus erased that bit of old law so Christians don't need to follow it.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    How to Shrink your Church in One Easy Step

    ....In 2003, Gene Robinson became the first openly gay, noncelibate man to be consecrated as a bishop of the Episcopal Church. In the wake of his consecration, entire dioceses severed ties with the Episcopal Church, eventually creating the Anglican Church of North America (ACNA). But the Episcopal Church continued to liberalize its sexual teachings, lifting a moratorium on any more gay bishops in 2006 and creating a “blessing ceremony” for gay couples in 2009.

    In 2002, the number of baptized U.S. members of the Episcopal Church stood at 2.32 million. By 2012, that number had fallen to 1.89 million, a decline of 18.4 percent. Meanwhile, attendance has fallen even more steeply. Average Sunday attendance in its U.S. churches was 846,000 in 2002, but had fallen 24.4 percent by 2012 to only 640,000. Other signs of congregational liveliness have fallen even further. Baptisms have fallen by 39.6 percent, and marriages have fallen by 44.9 percent.

    As for the ACNA? It’s seen its membership rise by 13 percent and its Sunday attendance rise by 16 percent in the past five years. Since 2009, the ACNA has planted 488 new congregations. In 2012, the entire Episcopal Church managed to plant four new churches....
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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    They don't eschew it more than any other denomination.
    They do. But, as has been pointed out, this is a discussion for another thread
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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    There really is no other answer. "Christ" is the root word of "Christian". How can you call yourself a Christian if you do not follow the word of Christ? Serious question.
    Christ didn't say anything about homosexuals. Some think he was gay.

    Jesus as an openly gay man | Michael Ruse | Comment is free | The Guardian

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    Re: Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    The schism broke my heart. I imagine now that other denominations will be sorely tested too and that other schisms will follow.

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