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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Marriage sets up a legal relationships. Why would people who already have a legal relationship with each other need to set up a different legal relationship with each other?
    Let me guess, gay people can simple marry a member of the opposite sex if they want to be married so it is not discrimination? I remember when only republicans used that argument.

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Let me guess, gay people can simple marry a member of the opposite sex if they want to be married so it is not discrimination? I remember when only republicans used that argument.
    Seriously? How in the hell did you get that from what I said?

    Plus, just to be clear, I don't actually completely oppose incestuous marriage in the first place. I'm saying that it isn't automatically granted from this decision. You are bypassing some very important things involved in the legal process here, including the actual arguments for and against laws, which require more than just a previous SCOTUS decision. Even previous SCOTUS decisions can be modified by new cases.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Plus, just to be clear, I don't actually completely oppose incestuous marriage in the first place.
    But how does it affect you? Remember when democrats used to say this, as if they actually believed in it? Now they say vague bigoted things like "I don't actually completely oppose incestuous marriage." They used to be for equality, now they want to deny what they used to call a human right to related couples.

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    But how does it affect you? Remember when democrats used to say this, as if they actually believed in it? Now they say vague bigoted things like "I don't actually completely oppose incestuous marriage." They used to be for equality, now they want to deny what they used to call a human right to related couples.
    The message concerned actual legal arguments for and against, the fact that men and women are treated the same in marriage, and that a same sex married couple is easily comparable to an opposite sex married couple as having no additional complications between the two.

    Stop with the rhetoric. You don't really want incest, I'm willing to bet. This is a rant. I've been saying that bans on cousins and further out getting married is the next fight, that they should win for quite some time. And I have no real issue with siblings or parent/child marriages except I can see the legitimate state interests they can claim for those arguments. They might not be legitimate to the court. Fine with me. It doesn't harm me at all. I would hope that those who are groomed to such things are found out before such marriages become legal, but they are a small part of the population anyway.
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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The message concerned actual legal arguments for and against, the fact that men and women are treated the same in marriage, and that a same sex married couple is easily comparable to an opposite sex married couple as having no additional complications between the two.
    It is a right, unless you are related to your partner?

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    It is a right, unless you are related to your partner?
    Nothing is a right until it is a ruled as such. Whether they should have that right or not, depends on much more than just this ruling, like you are trying to claim.
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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Nothing is a right until it is a ruled as such.
    It just was.

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Can you tell me why polygamists shouldn't have the right to marry?
    From a value judgement perspective, it excludes some people from marriage. Wealthier men can horde wives at the cost to less prvileged men creating a societal imbalance. At least same-sex marriage was largely inclusive since gays and lesbians were not particularly likely to form lasting marriages with opposite sex individuals.

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    It just was.
    No, it wasn't. Incest is not mentioned at all in that ruling, nor was it under review. They can't rule on something that has not been argued to them.
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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, it wasn't.
    But it did. The argument is for any two people, that clearly includes incest couples.

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