Page 32 of 55 FirstFirst ... 22303132333442 ... LastLast
Results 311 to 320 of 548

Thread: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

  1. #311
    Sage

    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Florida
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    18,241

    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Its rather ironic that you...a champion of homosexuality and gay marriage...feel you have the right to impose your definitions on others. THIS is ok...but not THAT.

    Gotcha....blatant hypocrisy at its finest.
    It has nothing to do with what I say or want. It is society that has advanced I was merely stating a fact for you. Equality of the sexes is mainstream in most modern societies.

  2. #312
    Sage
    Taylor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    US
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 06:10 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    5,266

    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's not just about good business, it's about waging war with the assistance of public infrastructure against minority groups. That's bad for business and society. It's harming society under the guise of a business "open to the public". If you want a private club that excludes blacks, that's your business but if you're open to the public it's public business.

    Economics aside, we as a people, have every right to ban such behavior from public business because it's harmful to society.
    We were talking about legal rights. The federal government has no mandate to ensure people are not discriminated against or to ensure that society is not harmed by that discrimination. The do have the authority to regulate interstate commerce. The point was that legally speaking, it was all about business.

    Yes, of course, the true motivation was otherwise, but they had no power to address that directly.

  3. #313
    geo-lib
    ecofarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Florida
    Last Seen
    11-25-16 @ 04:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    57,782

    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    We were talking about legal rights. The federal government has no mandate to ensure people are not discriminated against or to ensure that society is not harmed by that discrimination. The do have the authority to regulate interstate commerce. The point was that legally speaking, it was all about business.

    Yes, of course, the true motivation was otherwise, but they had no power to address that directly.
    People have a right to be treated equally under the law. If a business chooses to be open to the public we have entered a legal discussion.

  4. #314
    Sage
    Caine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:40 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    22,683

    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    How can you have an equal partnership with polygamy? That is the crux of a modern marriage. Polygamy is going backwards.
    "Going backwards"

    Freedom is forwards compared to people being told how they are supposed to live their life.

    If people are agreeing to a polygamous union.... they are aware of their "partnership level".

  5. #315
    Sage
    Caine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:40 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    22,683

    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    WHy? WHy not three? Why not four? What has CLEARLY been determined is that the definition of 'normal' is fluid and can mean essentially whatever people want it to mean.

    I dont have a 'problem' with two people of the same gender being together. I dont care that two consenting adults choose to be together. I accept the courts decisions, in spite fo the fact that it undoes 38 states constitutions and laws. That IS a matter for the courts. That doesnt make it 'right' and it certainly doesnt make it 'normal' (one need look no further than the gay community at large to see the extremes of 'normal'). But I celebrate your right to be gay...even though I cant see it defined in ANY manner as 'normal'.
    And.... we need to get away from this idea that everyone else should be forced to comply with societal "Norms"

  6. #316
    Sage
    Caine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:40 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    22,683

    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The modern concept of marriage is an equal partnership which is impossible in polygamy.
    And to those who wish it, that is their choice.

    Are you saying that the force of the government should be used to deny someone legal recognition based on a "theory" of "equal partnership".

    And... how exactly is "equal partnership" not possible in polygamy?

    If I am in union with 3 other women.... are we not 1/4 "equal" in this union?

  7. #317
    Sage
    Caine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:40 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    22,683

    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Too much of a good thing isn't a good thing.

    With ever increasing degrees of freedom come a proportional degree of responsibility exercising that freedom. The latter is severely lacking, yet continued indulgence of the former is demanded. Between the two trends there's an ensuing collision, where everyone in the society and the society itself suffers. These are the crossroads where I believe we've arrived.
    Then it is settled....

    You do not favor freedom of the individual.... but Freedom of the "Mob" to impose their standards upon all, even those who do not agree, up to and including denying them equal protection under the law, as long as the majority says so.

  8. #318
    Sage
    Caine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:40 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    22,683

    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    From a federal standpoint, yes. People do have that right. They have the right to refuse service to blacks for any reason. There is no constitutional right to be treated equal by your peers, and no real federal authority to outlaw discrimination.

    The reason you can't refuse service to blacks at a restaurant isn't because the government protects people from discrimination, but because the government protects interstate commerce, and refusing service to blacks is just not good business.
    So then, you are saying that the government has more of a right than the individual to discriminate against someone based upon "eww icky gheys!!"

  9. #319
    Sage
    Caine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:40 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    22,683

    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It is none the less true. Polygamy stems from a time when women were subjugated and treated as inferior. We have advanced from that primitive behavior and I see no reason to go back to it.
    Again... you aren't supporting any reason to deny Freedom to a group of people who CHOOSE to live in this manner.

  10. #320
    Sage
    Caine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:40 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    22,683

    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Ironically, by making gay marriage legal, it will ultimately serve to end the concept of legal marriage altogether. Unintended (or intended) consequences will abound.
    If that is what you think.

    I personally think that people who believe as you do are the reason why Jim Crow laws stuck around for so long.

    Those who argued for them also believed that the entire country was going to fall apart without those laws.

    They were wrong.

    And so are you.

Page 32 of 55 FirstFirst ... 22303132333442 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •