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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Three consenting adults in a relationship...why do we care?
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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Despite one obscure polygamous couple in Montana asking for recognition, polygamy is not nearly as popular for same-sex marriage, and there is no large push for it, so I don't see anything coming of it.
    So then....You too are for Mob Rule then?

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    It is clear that God intended marriage to be between one man, and one woman. I mean, two chapters into the Bible, but also throughout.

    Genesis 2:24 English Standard Version (ESV)

    24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
    Actually it's not - which wife? The interpretation of one man and one woman was created by the Romans as I already stated after Christ's crucifixion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    You do know about social secutity spousal benefits, correct?
    Yes... and welfare from the state is not a reason to limit the freedoms of the people...

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by MrT View Post
    The best answer that I have found, after some in depth research into recent court cases, for the answer to your question is, "the state." Specifically as it relates to the tax incentives and inheritance laws of marriage. If a polygamist relationship is allowed, then the probability of fraud goes up quite a bit and thus, the State could be forced to pay out the benefits of a polygamous relationship with very little control over the supposed societal benefits associated with a family structure that is anchored by marriage.
    Looks like your hunting around for an excuse to prohibit polygamy. I don't think the Left has a leg to stand on anymore.
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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I do have a question for anyone who opposes it to answer....


    What is inherently wrong with polygamy? On what grounds do people oppose it?
    I would suggest reading the opinion from Brown v. Buhman, it's a district court case which struct down the cohabitation aspect of Utah's polygamy law, but upehld the general ban on the grounds of State's interests. Essentially, the argument goes that the State provides societal benefits to married couples because those couples provide societal benefits to the State. If polygamy is allowed, then the probability of tax fraud (e.g. people will declare themselves married, but not actually be connected to each other in any meaningful way) goes up. The same types of arguments can be applied to inheritance laws as well.

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    I am sure you are.
    Yes... As I said... I am fine with it.

    I do not suffer from other people's affliction of the need to control other people's relationships that affect nobody but themselves.

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post

    if you believe that marriage is between 1 man and 1 women your argument stays consistent even in polygamist marriages.
    And yet, nobody with that belief has been able to prove why their belief should be the law of the land, despite the rights and liberties of others who don't share it.

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    And herein lies the folly of this whole debacle. The idea that the state should in any way be the arbiter of what a "legitimate" marriage consists of is absurd. If we're just going to let anyone and everyone determine fr themselves what is and is not "legitimate" then why bother having marriage laws at all?

    I suspect that after the crazies and the activists and the crazy activists are done with this thing the whole concept of marriage is going to be stricken from law....which, when you get right down to it, is fine with me.
    A wild free for all 'self identify your marriage' environment. OK.

    Now. The hard part. What about the financial impact to the state and the electorate of being married or not being married? What of the financial difference to the state? (mind you I'm just asking questions, I don't know specifically).
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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Scripture does not support polygamy for modern man.

    There is now no legal basis for prohibiting polygamy, or any kind of marriage for that matter.
    Would you prefer that there be a legal basis for limiting the rights and freedoms of others? Especially when those rights and freedoms do not effect you in the slightest?

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