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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash Farley View Post
    I don't care how long you've been here or your claim of honesty. Who you supposedly know has nothing to do with anything. Often people try to persuade others by claiming to know this person or that person, or they've done this or that. This is the internet where the only thing to back up your points are verifiable facts.
    The only thing we can confirm about you is that your stay with us was limited to 31 short posts. And you seem like such a swell fella, too.

    I don't know who Goshin knows, but I travelled extensively to the Middle East in a previous job, and polygamy is practiced there. Most men who are not dirt poor have multiple wives. That you can Google on the internet.
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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash Farley View Post
    I don't care how long you've been here or your claim of honesty. Who you supposedly know has nothing to do with anything. Often people try to persuade others by claiming to know this person or that person, or they've done this or that. This is the internet where the only thing to back up your points are verifiable facts.
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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    If conservatives and want join liberals in coming up with a means of preventing polygamy without demonizing gays, and without citing Biblical scripture (which supports polygamy), I'm totally on board.
    You don't like polygamy?
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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Polygamy in biblical times was a cultural tradition, not a religious one. Multiple wives were acceptable culturally as were concubines (mistresses). Abraham, David, Solomon... all men of God in the Old Testament but note, they normally did not have more than a few. The argument for polygamy is this: If God were set against Polygamy he would have provided a law to one of his prophets in the Old Testament to ban it. There are some areas in the bible where God warns against it, but it is not outright banned - so morally and religiously there is no strict rule against it.

    Deuteronomy 21:15-17
    Deuteronomy 17:17

    Polygamy was banned under the Roman laws, which the rest of the Christian world adopted, it spread through Europe and then to the United States and South America. Frankly, more than one wife in the house seems masochistic to me but each to their own.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Well, let's be honest...same sex marriage isn't legit either. Sure there's a fancy piece of paper, but it's not a real union they way Jenner isn't a real woman. It's like installing a wheelchair ramp on your building, the person is still disabled, you're just accommodating them for the sake of everyone getting along. We call Jenner a woman so that "she" can function better within society, but Jenner isn't really a woman. We call gays "married" so they too can function better within society, but they aren't really married, just on paper. The state doesn't have the power to decide legitimacy no matter how badly it wants to pretend.
    All marriages are "just on paper" and simply a matter of the public conscious from a factual sense. Anything beyond that is simply, at best, a matter of faith....and while one persons faith may deem it "only on paper", another's may not. You, nor anyone else, is the arbiter of truth and absolutes in this matter.

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    If conservatives and want join liberals in coming up with a means of preventing polygamy without demonizing gays, and without citing Biblical scripture (which supports polygamy), I'm totally on board.
    Scripture does not support polygamy for modern man.

    There is now no legal basis for prohibiting polygamy, or any kind of marriage for that matter.

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Polygamy in biblical times was a cultural tradition, not a religious one. Multiple wives were acceptable culturally as were concubines (mistresses). Abraham, David, Solomon... all men of God in the Old Testament but note, they normally did not have more than a few. The argument for polygamy is this: If God were set against Polygamy he would have provided a law to one of his prophets in the Old Testament to ban it. There are some areas in the bible where God warns against it, but it is not outright banned - so morally and religiously there is no strict rule against it.

    Deuteronomy 21:15-17
    Deuteronomy 17:17

    Polygamy was banned under the Roman laws, which the rest of the Christian world adopted, it spread through Europe and then to the United States and South America. Frankly, more than one wife in the house seems masochistic to me but each to their own.
    Here's something else to consider, two women in the house don't always get along. It takes a very special set of rules and attitudes of acceptance to make it work. But outside of that, the legality is up to society which appears to be in a mood to accept it.
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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Here's something else to consider, two women in the house don't always get along.
    I would go a little further and state: Two women in the house most of the time do not get along, especially if they are married to the same man. Hell, even sisters are at each others throats and I should know, I had 3 older sisters in the house when I grew up.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Scripture does not support polygamy for modern man.

    There is now no legal basis for prohibiting polygamy, or any kind of marriage for that matter.
    We're talking about a spiritual basis, not legal. Where does the scripture say that previous examples of polygamy (e.g. Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon, etc.) were explicitly sinful and abhorrent in the eyes of God?

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    Re: Polygamous Montana Trio Applies For Wedding License

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    that isn't what was posted or what I responded to.

    The poster said that sure they can get married but the restrictions on benefits would still be in place.

    that is still discrimination. if they have a legal marriage then that would open their 2 or 3 or even 4th wife or husbands
    up to the same benefits.

    equal protection would then apply to their other marriages as well.

    this is where the proponents of gay marriage are going to get themselves in trouble by supporting one type of marriage but not all types of marriage then
    well they are just as bigoted and close minded and all the other horrible names that they called people that didn't support gay marriage.

    if you believe that marriage is between 1 man and 1 women your argument stays consistent even in polygamist marriages.
    Actually, if you believe marriage is between two people your argument still remains consistent.

    However though, and again, it's only conservatives arguing for polygamy and incest sister-cousin marriages. Those marriages mostly apply to religious people. Especially sister, cousin, mother, dad, mom marriages.

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