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    Re: California Law Requires Vaccinations to Attend School.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    That's what tort law is for. Sue them in the civil court system.
    A change in the question.
    Ref your point on direct harm – fully infected – the disease has blossomed, you leave the house, interact with others; you have knowingly placed others at risk due to your lack of vaccination. Deliberately caused injuries to person(s) & or caused a person(s) to die.
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    Re: California Law Requires Vaccinations to Attend School.

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    A change in the question.
    Ref your point on direct harm fully infected the disease has blossomed, you leave the house, interact with others; you have knowingly placed others at risk due to your lack of vaccination. Deliberately caused injuries to person(s) & or caused a person(s) to die.
    Again, that would depend on the circumstances. For example, every time you get sick and instead of staying home you go to a hospital for treatment, that simple act will "knowingly placed others at risk." This would be a tort.

    On the other hand, let's say you find out that you are HIV positive. That your reaction is to go out and seek unprotected sex with random partners in order to intentionally infect them with HIV. That would fall under the criminal codes.
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    Re: California Law Requires Vaccinations to Attend School.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Again, that would depend on the circumstances. For example, every time you get sick and instead of staying home you go to a hospital for treatment, that simple act will "knowingly placed others at risk." This would be a tort.

    On the other hand, let's say you find out that you are HIV positive. That your reaction is to go out and seek unprotected sex with random partners in order to intentionally infect them with HIV. That would fall under the criminal codes.
    Let us say you have the measles and go shopping at the mall.
    You are also coughing and sneezing quite often.
    You are a clear and distinct threat to persons with a suppressed immune system
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    Re: California Law Requires Vaccinations to Attend School.

    In many cases a tort would not work. I believe many are infectious before the rash shows. It is a public safety hazard. If they don't want to get shots, or are unable to receive them, they can still access a free education at home. That is their choice.

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    Re: California Law Requires Vaccinations to Attend School.

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Let us say you have the measles and go shopping at the mall.
    You are also coughing and sneezing quite often.
    You are a clear and distinct threat to persons with a suppressed immune system
    Same if you had a common cold or the flu or any number of communicable infections by dieses not covered by vaccination.
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    Re: California Law Requires Vaccinations to Attend School.

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Let us say you have the measles and go shopping at the mall.
    You are also coughing and sneezing quite often.
    You are a clear and distinct threat to persons with a suppressed immune system
    EVERYONE is a distinct threat to persons with a suppressed immune system. Our skins literally crawl with disease vectors that can pose a potential threat to other people, especially those with a suppressed immune system. People cough and sneeze for all sorts of reasons, even after getting flu vaccinations. Should we all walk around in self-contained NBC suits to insure that no one is ever at risk?

    Parent's typically keep their kids home when they get the measles, chicken pox, etc. Parent's also send their kids to school when they suffer from minor symptoms of illness, for example the cold or flu. Very few people intend to cause harm as a result. Your argument is extreme. It is safer to keep a child with an immune system deficiency home-schooled than to blame refusal to vaccinate as a reason to home school an otherwise healthy child.
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    Re: California Law Requires Vaccinations to Attend School.

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    Same if you had a common cold or the flu or any number of communicable infections by dieses not covered by vaccination.
    People undergoing Chemo know this. No vaccine for the cold, but for others there are. So the point is what?
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    Re: California Law Requires Vaccinations to Attend School.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    EVERYONE is a distinct threat to persons with a suppressed immune system. Our skins literally crawl with disease vectors that can pose a potential threat to other people, especially those with a suppressed immune system. People cough and sneeze for all sorts of reasons, even after getting flu vaccinations. Should we all walk around in self-contained NBC suits to insure that no one is ever at risk?

    Parent's typically keep their kids home when they get the measles, chicken pox, etc. Parent's also send their kids to school when they suffer from minor symptoms, for example the cold or flu. Very few people intend to cause harm as a result. Your argument is extreme. It is safer to keep a child with an immune system deficiency home-schooled than to blame refusal to vaccinate as a reason to home school an otherwise healthy child.
    My points are not extreme. Generally does not prevent infections. And there is a period before the symptoms are known.
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    Re: California Law Requires Vaccinations to Attend School.

    How many people died of the measles last year in America? How can you justify forcing medical treatment on the population because of measles?

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    Re: California Law Requires Vaccinations to Attend School.

    And how does forcing vaccines on kids that attend public schools stop measles outbreaks at Disneyland? Does the governor realize that people from all around the globe visit Disneyland?

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