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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    The neocon ambition for regime change in Iraq predates 9/11. 9/11 merely served as a twisted excuse to advance that ambition.

    Kristol and Kagan advocated regime change in Iraq throughout the Iraq disarmament crisis.[22][23] Following perceived Iraqi unwillingness to co-operate with UN weapons inspections, core members of the PNAC including Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, R. James Woolsey, Elliot Abrams, Donald Rumsfeld, Robert Zoellick, and John Bolton were among the signatories of an open letter initiated by the PNAC to President Bill Clinton calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein.

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    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Is that what the resolution stated?
    Is it what you believe, or do you intend to keep ducking and diving like this ad infinitum ? Cite where (in the resolution you keep hiding behind) invasion was sanctioned ?

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The neocon ambition for regime change in Iraq predates 9/11. 9/11 merely served as a twisted excuse to advance that ambition.

    Kristol and Kagan advocated regime change in Iraq throughout the Iraq disarmament crisis.[22][23] Following perceived Iraqi unwillingness to co-operate with UN weapons inspections, core members of the PNAC including Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, R. James Woolsey, Elliot Abrams, Donald Rumsfeld, Robert Zoellick, and John Bolton were among the signatories of an open letter initiated by the PNAC to President Bill Clinton calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein.

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    Apparently so did Bill Clinton who signed the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998, what did that Act propose?

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Is it what you believe, or do you intend to keep ducking and diving like this ad infinitum ? Cite where (in the resolution you keep hiding behind) invasion was sanctioned ?
    You are brilliant, you know what I believe? Interesting. Please post where I ever said we invaded Iraq because of 9/11?

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

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    Apparently so did Bill Clinton who signed the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998, what did that Act propose?
    I've repeatedly explained that there's a dimes thickness of difference in the two parties and been an advocate for the independent party. What's your point?
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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I've repeatedly explained that there's a dimes thickness of difference in the two parties and been an advocate for the independent party. What's your point?
    My point is third party advocates like you are nave and very gullible even though principled. There is no chance of success at the national level for a third party until you build it from the ground up. As has been seen and proven, 43% or so of the Democrats will vote for a Democrat regardless of his qualifications or no matter what he does, about 25% of Republicans are the same way, where does that leave an independent. The answer is always work from within and change from within, not from the outside. The choice is clear, the party of Pelosi, Reid, and Obama or the Republicans. Looks simple to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    My point is third party advocates like you are nave and very gullible even though principled. There is no chance of success at the national level for a third party until you build it from the ground up. As has been seen and proven, 43% or so of the Democrats will vote for a Democrat regardless of his qualifications or no matter what he does, about 25% of Republicans are the same way, where does that leave an independent. The answer is always work from within and change from within, not from the outside. The choice is clear, the party of Pelosi, Reid, and Obama or the Republicans. Looks simple to me
    Registered independents outnumber both democratic and republican voters. It's merely time for them to vote independent.
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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Registered independents outnumber both democratic and republican voters. It's merely time for them to vote independent.
    Being registered and who you vote for are two different thing. Doesn't matter whether or not you register an independent for here is what you are missing

    From Gallop

    Americans are increasingly declaring independence from the political parties. It is not uncommon for the percentage of independents to rise in a non-election year, as 2013 was. Still, the general trend in recent years, including the 2012 election year, has been toward greater percentages of Americans identifying with neither the Republican Party nor the Democratic Party, although most still admit to leaning toward one of the parties

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Registered independents outnumber both democratic and republican voters. It's merely time for them to vote independent.
    There is no Independent Party. These unaffiliated voters have diverse views and it's not clear that a single party could appeal to all of them.

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Being registered and who you vote for are two different thing. Doesn't matter whether or not you register an independent for here is what you are missing

    From Gallop
    Yes of course they lean towards one or the other. But the whole reason that they have pulled their registration from the two dinosaurs is because of their disgust with them to begin with. What I'm saying is that they now need to vote independent and side line the two.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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