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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No doubt.
    Turned out his "secret plan" to end the Vietnam wa... I mean police action was to declare victory and leave. Look how well that turned out!
    It was a war, an episode in the Cold War, but we can use that as another example of what happens when leftists, especially those who have no knowledge of international power and its dynamics, get involved in foreign policy decision making.

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wrong, George Tenet a Clinton appointee made the statement. You continue to buy only what you want and ignore anything that contradicts it

    CNN.com - Woodward: Tenet told Bush WMD case a 'slam dunk' - Apr 19, 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    So (again) how do you explain this ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0wbpKCdkkQ

    What have I ignored here ?
    He can't explain it, so he'll probably ignore it.


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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Just answer the question and don't bother me with your goofy links.

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You want to underestimate them - that's classic bad strategy going back nearly 3,000 years to 500 BC and Sun Tzu's time.
    Us overestimating them serves their purposes far better

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Overestimating them serves their purposes far better
    Hardly. Show me how many wars were lost because the enemy was overestimated.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Bush era conservatives blame Obama for not doubling down on the multi-trillion-dollar cluster**** they created in the Middle East. That's the bottom line. Obama is not a neocon, and he was elected to change course rather than continue the Project For a New American Century.
    N, the bottom line was that Iraq was stable, all you need do is check the stats. But in order to keep it stable troops had to remain. Instead Obama moved them out, claiming an end to the war. That Obama would claim that it takes only one side to end a war is just anther example of his profound ignorance on foreign policy and power politics.

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It was a war, an episode in the Cold War, but we can use that as another example of what happens when leftists, especially those who have no knowledge of international power and its dynamics, get involved in foreign policy decision making.
    Instead of worrying about right and left perhaps you should care more about whats right and wrong. That war was most definitely wrong by what ever measure you choose to judge it by and I'm not using 20-20 hindsight here either

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Hardly. Show me how many wars were lost because the enemy was overestimated.
    Overestimating them simply buttresses this rag tag bunch of zealots It makes them think they can win and assists their recruitment

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Overestimating them simply buttresses this rag tag bunch of zealots It makes them think they can win and assists their recruitment
    So let me answer since you will not. Zero wars have been lost due to overestimating an enemy. Zero.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So let me answer since you will not. Zero wars have been lost due to overestimating an enemy. Zero.
    Perhaps before going in again to kill who knows how many more hundreds of thousands of collateral victims, it might be better to take a more realistic view of the magnitude of the threat first.

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