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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

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    A man of your years and education still stuck on Ring around the Rosie.
    Go back to all those investigations congress had.
    Does it really matter? The question is what does this country do now about ISIS? I do know that ISIS controlled no property in Iraq while Bush was in the WH and none until our military left under Obama

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

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    ISIS is at war with the West and that should make us at war with them because the threat is real. Yes, I would support a resolution declaring War against ISIS.
    Yes, the threat is real and should not be ignored. But the threat isn't military might, it's extreme religious fundamentalist ideology and no army can stop ideas or beliefs, but instead does the opposite and tends to re-enforce and even expand their ideology. And in the case of ISIS, this has never been more true. They want US forces to come fight them in their land because that will prove in their minds and all that the gullible masses that follow them that their ideological beliefs are right. And I don't think we really want that, do you?
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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yes, the threat is real and should not be ignored. But the threat isn't military might, it's extreme religious fundamentalism and no army can stop ideas or beliefs, but instead does the opposite and enforces their belief. And in the case of ISIS, this has never been more true. They want US forces to come fight them in their land because that will prove in their minds and all that the gullible masses that their ideological beliefs are right. And I really don't think we want that, do you?
    Ok, apparently that is in our future. Unless we do fight them and destroy them this could happen here

    74 children executed by ISIS for 'crimes' that include refusal to fast, report says | Fox News

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

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    Does it really matter? The question is what does this country do now about ISIS? I do know that ISIS controlled no property in Iraq while Bush was in the WH and none until our military left under Obama
    Yeah it does matter.
    We clearly have opposing views on a number of issues, but I do enjoy discussion. Never know what you may learn.

    A clear example where we differ would be Bush going into Iraq. A massive strategic mistake.
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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

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    Ok, apparently that is in our future. Unless we do fight them and destroy them this could happen here

    74 children executed by ISIS for 'crimes' that include refusal to fast, report says | Fox News
    No, what I described was the result of the Iraq invasion and occurring now. But then, so are you. By sending in more US troops, can you guarantee that it won't radicalize even more Muslims from all over the world in joining ISIS to fight Americans, not just in Syria but right here on our own soil with lone wolf sympathizers and making ISIS an even bigger, stronger, more formiddable foe than before?
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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Yeah it does matter.
    We clearly have opposing views on a number of issues, but I do enjoy discussion. Never know what you may learn.

    A clear example where we differ would be Bush going into Iraq. A massive strategic mistake.
    Blaming Bush or Obama at this point may make you feel good but it serves no purpose. You cannot change the past only the future. The question remains what do we do about ISIS right now??

    74 children executed by ISIS for 'crimes' that include refusal to fast, report says | Fox News

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    No, what I described was the result of the Iraq invasion. But then, so are you. By sending in more US troops, can you guarantee that it won't radicalize even more Muslims from all over the world in joining ISIS to fight Americans, not just in Syria but right here on our own soil with lone wolf sympathizers and making ISIS an even bigger, stronger, more formiddable foe than before?
    What we can guarantee is what is happening right now and the fact that ISIS is killing randomly. How many have to die before ISIS becomes a problem for you? Too many people are reactive instead of being proactive and that always costs lives

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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

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    Blaming Bush or Obama at this point may make you feel good but it serves no purpose. You cannot change the past only the future. The question remains what do we do about ISIS right now??

    74 children executed by ISIS for 'crimes' that include refusal to fast, report says | Fox News
    Let them sort it out themselves. Provide support to the Kurds.
    Stay out of Syria.
    Let Turkey and the Saudi's deal with Syria.
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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What we can guarantee is what is happening right now and the fact that ISIS is killing randomly. How many have to die before ISIS becomes a problem for you? Too many people are reactive instead of being proactive and that always costs lives
    How about Darfur for another area. But the resident Genocidal Leader in Chief is now cooperating with the US on terror information- intelligence. So the pressure from the US has lightened.
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    Re: 50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

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    50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints | Fox News

    This is evil people, what is Obama and this Administration doing about it??
    Obama is doing worse than nothing, he's preventing our Arab allies from arming the kurds to fight ISIS. The kurds are making the most progress and Obama actively blocks them.

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