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    Re: Supreme Court to Weigh Dispute Over Union Fees

    You are left wing, if your posts matter.

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    Re: Supreme Court to Weigh Dispute Over Union Fees

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    There is no agreement, the law simply dictates they pay dues.
    nope, wrong.

    there must be a union agreement for you to pay dues.
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    Re: Supreme Court to Weigh Dispute Over Union Fees

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why should a contract with group A include membership to group B? Why must I agree to join a union when I agree to get a job? Are unions so inept that they must latch themselves onto other contracts?
    well clearly they're ept enough to get your employer to make you join.
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    Re: Supreme Court to Weigh Dispute Over Union Fees

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    there must be a union agreement for you to pay dues.
    Nope, just a law enforcing it.

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    Re: Supreme Court to Weigh Dispute Over Union Fees

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    well clearly they're ept enough to get your employer to make you join.
    Because getting some politicians to do your bidding when you throw a bunch of money their way is hard.

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    Re: Supreme Court to Weigh Dispute Over Union Fees

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I suspect you are always "correct" in rationalizing your own behavior.
    are you saying i'm incorrect in my estimation that you dislike freeloaders?

    I do NOT get your attempt in insulting me by calling me right wing. Can you explain that so it makes sense?
    the irony of you not comprehending my words after commenting on my comprehension is amusing.

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    Re: Supreme Court to Weigh Dispute Over Union Fees

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Closed shops should be banned outright. However, unions should be under zero obligation to represent non-union workers. They haven't paid for the privilege. If a shop has both, so be it.

    The only caveat I would put is that a union contract cannot address the non-union workers in ANY way whatsoever. That includes banning language that would guarentee union workers the highest pay. No, if management wants to reward good employees with higher pay, that's fine. Union workers can either choose to quit the union and work for greater potential or they can choose stay in their union safety net.

    And as you're clearly saying here, it's all about choice, right?

    Or, is it just they "choice" you would like to see?






    Henrin is right, you're making no sense. Pay comes from revenue/profits. And management gets more control because management is taking more risk.

    Not to mention you seem to think that management does no work whatsoever. Who do you think coordinates everything and makes sure it functions properly? That stuff doesn't just happen in a vacuum. No, it takes qualified and competent people who work just as hard, albeit not as physical, as everyone else.
    no. that is union busting 101
    paying non-union more than union undermines the union
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Supreme Court to Weigh Dispute Over Union Fees

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I know a guy... strong union guy... who was employed by a trucking distribution facility. He commonly and proudly boasted that he pumped gas for $24/hr. He proudly boasted that his job description was so limited that, if there were no truck to pump gas into, he could pretty much just do nothing as long as he wasn't overtly just standing around. He proudly boasted that if management got on his case for *anything*, the union would go to bat for him, even when he knew management was in the right (and he would let them). And when asked directly by me, he admitted he was way overpaid considering the level of skill and work that was required of him, but because he could get away with it, he was a strong union guy.

    Who's the freeloader?

    (This was in the 1990s, in the interest of full disclosure.)
    who was the management representative who allowed such BS to be negotiated under the contract?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Supreme Court to Weigh Dispute Over Union Fees

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no. that is union busting 101
    paying non-union more than union undermines the union
    Haha, it undermines the myth that unions help.

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    Re: Supreme Court to Weigh Dispute Over Union Fees

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Great for the non-unions members. Unions are not dwindling because there is an evil conspiracy, it is just because unions serve no helpful purpose, especially to those that are forced to be in them.
    with more than 5000 work sites in the USA, you think not one of them wants to unionize, and there is no effort put into denying unionization?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    The Democrats couldn't be more tone deaf if they had their eardrums incinerated with a hot poker.
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