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    Re: Colorado Court Rules Use of Public Funds for Private Schools Is Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Not real sure the Colorado Court got this wrong, according to their own Constitution the reasoning seems sound. What am I missing here?
    Education is now a state issue?

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    Re: Colorado Court Rules Use of Public Funds for Private Schools Is Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Good. School vouchers divert money and attention from existing schools and are running public education into the ground.
    Um, no. The NEA is running public education into the ground. Vouchers are a fair and equitable solution. Why should people be taxed for something they don't use?

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    Re: Colorado Court Rules Use of Public Funds for Private Schools Is Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Education is now a state issue?
    When has it not been?
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    Re: Colorado Court Rules Use of Public Funds for Private Schools Is Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Yes, the constitution does not allow public money to be spent on religious schools. If there were schools that were specifically anti-religious (as opposed to merely teaching accurate science and history), they would likewise not be eligible for public money.
    Public money cannot go directly to religious schools; with vouchers, public money goes to parents who then have a choice in how to spend the money. This is allowed by the constitution.

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    Re: Colorado Court Rules Use of Public Funds for Private Schools Is Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Public money cannot go directly to religious schools; with vouchers, public money goes to parents who then have a choice in how to spend the money. This is allowed by the constitution.
    The latest round of this, the court decided that even indirectly tax money cannot go to religious organizations. The Colorado Constitution is pretty clear on this.

    Text of Section 34:
    Appropriations to Private Institutions Forbidden.

    No appropriation shall be made for charitable, industrial, educational or benevolent purposes to any person, corporation or community not under the absolute control of the state, nor to any denominational or sectarian institution or association.

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    Aid to Private Schools, Churches, Sectarian Purpose, Forbidden.

    Neither the general assembly, nor any county, city, town, township, school district or other public corporation, shall ever make any appropriation, or pay from any public fund or moneys whatever, anything in aid of any church or sectarian society, or for any sectarian purpose, or to help support or sustain any school, academy, seminary, college, university or other literary or scientific institution, controlled by any church or sectarian denomination whatsoever; nor shall any grant or donation of land, money or other personal property, ever be made by the state, or any such public corporation to any church, or for any sectarian purpose
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    Re: Colorado Court Rules Use of Public Funds for Private Schools Is Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    The latest round of this, the court decided that even indirectly tax money cannot go to religious organizations. The Colorado Constitution is pretty clear on this.
    Yes, the question now is whether Colorado has a justifiable rationale for singling out schools with religious affiliations.

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    Re: Colorado Court Rules Use of Public Funds for Private Schools Is Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Yes, the question now is whether Colorado has a justifiable rationale for singling out schools with religious affiliations.
    Yes. These schools want special exceptions. They don't want to follow the state curriculum, they want to be allowed to discriminate based on religion without penalty. Which they are not being forced to do. They are allowed to operate their schools as they see fit. But the public money goes to schools who follow the guidelines.

    If you want access to this money you have to do these things. They don't want to do those things, they don't get access to that money. The question is really not about religion, it is about control. If you read the wording of the articles;

    No appropriation shall be made for.....educational....purposes to any person, corporation or community not under the absolute control of the state

    Neither the general assembly, nor any county, city, town, township, school district or other public corporation.....pay from any public fund or moneys whatever.....to help support or sustain any school.....controlled by any church or sectarian denomination
    If there were religious schools that were able to comply with guidelines they would be eligible.
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    Re: Colorado Court Rules Use of Public Funds for Private Schools Is Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Good. School vouchers divert money and attention from existing schools and are running public education into the ground.
    maybe if the public school system didn't stink then maybe people wouldn't be looking for solutions to solve the problem.

    the question is why do you want to keep kids in bad public schools? I thought you were for poor kids? yet you want to keep them in bad schools that limit their education possibilities
    why is that?

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    Re: Colorado Court Rules Use of Public Funds for Private Schools Is Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Public money cannot go directly to religious schools; with vouchers, public money goes to parents who then have a choice in how to spend the money. This is allowed by the constitution.
    No, that's just a BS attempt to get around the constitution. Using a middle man doesn't change anything.
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    Re: Colorado Court Rules Use of Public Funds for Private Schools Is Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Good. School vouchers divert money and attention from existing schools and are running public education into the ground.
    LOL. Vouchers are not what is running government schools into the ground. If government schools were good, people would not try to get vouchers to escape them.

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