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    Re: KKK Plans Confederate Flag Rally at SC Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Seriously? Have you been around any liberals lately?
    "Conservatives" have been fighting to prevent two people from signing a private legal contract with each other lately, and freaking out when the Supreme Court did not adhere to their demand to suppress the rights of others. That sound like small government to you?

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    Re: KKK Plans Confederate Flag Rally at SC Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Both parties are big government. Both parties are anti-fiscal-responsibility. Both parties are authoritarian. Both parties want to control what the people can do. Sounds pretty liberal to me.
    C'mon. Seriously?
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    Re: KKK Plans Confederate Flag Rally at SC Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    In other words you have no point
    There is nothing to respond to. The notion that the Scottish decided to create the klan is absolutely ludicrous and not backed by anyone even remotely resembling a mainstream historian.
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    Re: KKK Plans Confederate Flag Rally at SC Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    "Conservatives" have been fighting to prevent two people from signing a private legal contract with each other lately, and freaking out when the Supreme Court did not adhere to their demand to suppress the rights of others. That sound like small government to you?
    Nope. The GOP isn't conservative. They haven't been in many years. They might try to wear the label, that doesn't mean they walk the walk. There is nothing conservative about the Republican Party.
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    Re: KKK Plans Confederate Flag Rally at SC Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Nope. The GOP isn't conservative. They haven't been in many years. They might try to wear the label, that doesn't mean they walk the walk. There is nothing conservative about the Republican Party.
    Good point. ACTUAL Conservatives in the GOP are as rare as Blue Dogs with the Democrats. Lots of them talk a good game but when it gets down to it, they expand government, increase spending and raise the debt - not as much as Democrats do - but it increases none the less.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: KKK Plans Confederate Flag Rally at SC Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Good point. ACTUAL Conservatives in the GOP are as rare as Blue Dogs with the Democrats. Lots of them talk a good game but when it gets down to it, they expand government, increase spending and raise the debt - not as much as Democrats do - but it increases none the less.
    Following the insurgence of the Southern Democrats, a lot of actual conservatives left the GOP for the Libertarian party, but most just bite their tongue and vote for the GOP anyhow. We have no conservative party in this country, none that follow the fundamental pillars of conservatism: personal and fiscal responsibility, small-government and keeping the government the hell out of the lives of the citizens. Nobody does that.
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    Re: KKK Plans Confederate Flag Rally at SC Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not quite. They were started as a community defense org to protect against the looting of southern communities after the war. The white robes were to make them appear as ghosts to scare the superstitious of the time, and there were a lot of superstitious folks.

    They quickly evolved into the hate group we've seen since.
    Nope. Check out history.com or any number of sources. I've seen several documentaries on them, as well.

    They were groups of white men that started right after the Civil War, based on the slave patrols that had existed, for the purpose of victimizing the newly freed black people (and sympathizers).

    The slave patrols were legal at the time they existed. The KKK operated outside the law, so were more brutal and violent.

    Its primary goal from the start was to re-establish white supremacy. It declined for a while, then revved up again in the early 20th Century by white Protestants, and broadened its targets to include not just blacks, but also Catholics, Jews, foreigners, and organized labor.

    FOUNDING OF THE KU KLUX KLAN
    A group including many former Confederate veterans founded the first branch of the Ku Klux Klan as a social club in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1866. The first two words of the organization’s name supposedly derived from the Greek word “kyklos,” meaning circle. In the summer of 1867, local branches of the Klan met in a general organizing convention and established what they called an “Invisible Empire of the South.” Leading Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest was chosen as the first leader, or “grand wizard,” of the Klan; he presided over a hierarchy of grand dragons, grand titans and grand cyclopses.
    Ku Klux Klan - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

    There was also apparently a particular relationship with South Carolina:

    Klan activity flourished particularly in the regions of the South where blacks were a minority or a small majority of the population, and was relatively limited in others. Among the most notorious zones of Klan activity was South Carolina, where in January 1871 500 masked men attacked the Union county jail and lynched eight black prisoners.
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    Re: KKK Plans Confederate Flag Rally at SC Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Give that stupid meme a rest. You don't understand why the southern racists were Democrats? For one reason only, they would not be associated with the "party of Lincoln". That all changed when Johnson signed the Civil Rights act because apparently that was worse than freeing the slaves. Now the racists are all Republicans because the GOP speaks their language.
    It ain't his meme, iguanaman.
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    Re: KKK Plans Confederate Flag Rally at SC Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    But speaking of the Klan, I found this somewhat amusing. Branson store owner, who said rebel flag doesn’t represent racism, has ties to KKK
    Oh, that's TOOOO funny!
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    Re: KKK Plans Confederate Flag Rally at SC Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    I don't know why the KKK aren't considered terrorists, given their history.

    They are.

    They are/were a domestic terrorist organization. The IRA was/is a terrorist organization, too. Then there was that group that Terry Nichols & the guy who blew up the OK fed. bldg...what was his name? Anyway, they belonged to a domestic terrorist organization.

    People forget in this day of Islamic terrorists that we have had others from across the world before. Although I think we'd agree that the Islamic terrorists have taken it to new heights.
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