• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

Montecresto said:
If the presidency was a business, perhaps. And then Bush would have been fired long before he finished out his second term! ;)
Click to expand...

That's true. That sad fact doesn't make Obama any better though.
 
Cardinal said:
Well I guess it all depends on how history remembers him. Reagan was 50% at this point and he's regarded fondly by conservatives as one of the best Presidents in the modern era. We'll just have to see if history is equally kind to Obama. I think he will be. He doesn't have Reagan's "presided over the fall of the USSR" crowdpleasing tagline, but as a guy who kept the United States chugging along, as well as leading us, slowly by surely, out of the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression, when the the dust settles Obama will be remembered as having been a fine president.
Click to expand...

Don't forget that Obama can claim, "caught the most wanted terrorist in US history" as a tagline.
 
iguanaman said:
It appears that all the victories last week have boosted Obama's approval rating to 50% for the 1st time since 2013. I guess more of us are proud to be an American.



Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week - CNNPolitics.com
Click to expand...

Thread after thread, post after post you are here supporting Obama. Please tell me what economic or foreign policy results have generated this support? What you and others continue to do is post support based upon feelings making this nothing more than an American Idol vote. Gruber defined people like you and really would like to understand your mindset and why such loyalty?

I ask because I grew up a liberal, voted Democrat for years until I realized that the principles upon which this country was built were being attacked and that fundamental change promised by previous liberals only led to a bigger, more massive, and costly American govt. along with an 18.2 trillion debt and the construction of the nanny state.
 
clownboy said:
Yeah, that may be so. Depends on who writes the history, what version becomes "common knowledge".

I'm obviously conservative and I have no love for Reagan. I was an adult when he was POTUS, unlike so many who adore him, idolize him.
Click to expand...

Speaking from the perspective of someone who voted for him twice, I can say Obama let a lot of his base down on certain things, but stepping back and looking at the big picture, he'll be "fine."
 
MrT said:
Don't forget that Obama can claim, "caught the most wanted terrorist in US history" as a tagline.
Click to expand...

Yep, there is that, as well as having fixed a couple of the worst problems in the healthcare crisis. We'll just have to see if history also remembers him as completely blowing it in the one opportunity in years to actually give us single payer UHC.
 
Conservative said:
I didn't realize that Obama was on Seal Team 6
Click to expand...

I didn't realize Reagan personally went over to the Soviet Union and personally tear down the Berlin Wall.
 
MrT said:
Don't forget that Obama can claim, "caught the most wanted terrorist in US history" as a tagline.
Click to expand...

He can also claim that he got members of the SEAL unit that actually went after binladen killed in Afghanistan thanks to his touchy-feely rules of engagement.
 
Conservative said:
Thread after thread, post after post you are here supporting Obama. Please tell me what economic or foreign policy results have generated this support? What you and others continue to do is post support based upon feelings making this nothing more than an American Idol vote. Gruber defined people like you and really would like to understand your mindset and why such loyalty?

I ask because I grew up a liberal, voted Democrat for years until I realized that the principles upon which this country was built were being attacked and that fundamental change promised by previous liberals only led to a bigger, more massive, and costly American govt. along with an 18.2 trillion debt and the construction of the nanny state.
Click to expand...

Are you sure you didn't just get greedier as you grew older? That seems more likely. The "principles" you despise have not changed since FDR and his new Bill of Rights.
 
Cardinal said:
Speaking from the perspective of someone who voted for him twice, I can say Obama let a lot of his base down on certain things, but stepping back and looking at the big picture, he'll be "fine."
Click to expand...

I voted for him the first time. Something I have regretted ever since.

I agree, historically he'll be fine, especially considering the current history of what is highlighted and what is shuffled to the background. But then a lot of folks still idolize Michael Jackson.
 
clownboy said:
I voted for him the first time. Something I have regretted ever since.

I agree, historically he'll be fine, especially considering the current history of what is highlighted and what is shuffled to the background. But then a lot of folks still idolize Michael Jackson.
Click to expand...

Please tell me you smoked a big fat doobie before heading off to the polling place and your brain was slightly addled.
 
Cardinal said:
Yep, there is that, as well as having fixed a couple of the worst problems in the healthcare crisis. We'll just have to see if history also remembers him as completely blowing it in the one opportunity in years to actually give us single payer UHC.
Click to expand...

So your idea of fixing the healthcare crisis is to have the federal taxpayer provide money to subsidize high risk people at a cost to them not only of tax dollars but higher premium costs and higher deductibles. Really? That is your idea of a fix?

Love the call for single payer from people like you who ignore the trillions in unfunded liabilities in SS and Medicare and the 18.2 trillion dollar debt. You are doing a great job promoting an economy to rival Greece. Do you really care?
 
Conservative said:
Thread after thread, post after post you are here supporting Obama. Please tell me what economic or foreign policy results have generated this support?
Click to expand...

Economic: Ending the Great Recession, reducing the unemployment rate below when he took office, and sitting in charge of the longest continuous private sector job growth in US history.

Foreign: Ending two wars, re-establishing diplomatic relations with Cuba, establishing climate change agreements with China, and (hopefully) establishing a meaningful nuclear de-armament agreement with Iran.

And let me just go ahead and preempt folks from pointing out their instances of Obama's failures - I get it, you have a justification for not liking him. I am just trying to explain some economic and foreign achievements that warrant support for Obama's job approval as per Conservative's request.
 
Cardinal said:
I didn't realize Reagan personally went over to the Soviet Union and personally tear down the Berlin Wall.
Click to expand...

I didn't make the claim that Obama captured Obama, I thought it was Seal Team 6 nor did I say that Reagan tore down the Berlin Wall but the did destroy the Soviet Union with his economic policies according the Gorbachev but then I expect you now more than he does or so you think
 
MrT said:
Economic: Ending the Great Recession, reducing the unemployment rate below when he took office, and sitting in charge of the longest continuous private sector job growth in US history.
Click to expand...

His lowering of unemployment consisted of lowering the standards for people to collect welfare and go on SSDI.
 
iguanaman said:
Are you sure you didn't just get greedier as you grew older? That seems more likely. The "principles" you despise have not changed since FDR and his new Bill of Rights.
Click to expand...

No, I understand the concept of neighbor helping neighbor not a federal bureaucracy being that neighbor, now answer the questions?
 
keymanjim said:
His lowering of unemployment consisted of lowering the standards for people to collect welfare and go on SSDI.
Click to expand...

Proof?

By the way, you're the same keymanjim who would routinely post on Sodahead, right?
 
MrT;1064772940]Economic: Ending the Great Recession, reducing the unemployment rate below when he took office, and sitting in charge of the longest continuous private sector job growth in US history.
Click to expand...

Really? The Great Recession as you call it ended in June 2009 so if it was so great what Obama economic policies did that? As for unemployment rate that has been beaten to death but the actual results don't really matter because he took a employment number of 142 million when he took office and took it to 139 million two years later and after the 842 billion stimulus was implemented. Wow, you really have been indoctrinated


Foreign: Ending two wars, re-establishing diplomatic relations with Cuba, establishing climate change agreements with China, and (hopefully) establishing a meaningful nuclear de-armament agreement with Iran.
Click to expand...

Actually so the Status of Forces Agreement in November 2008 had nothing to do with it. Seems Bush won the war and Obama lost the peace

And let me just go ahead and preempt folks from pointing out their instances of Obama's failures - I get it, you have a justification for not liking him. I am just trying to explain some economic and foreign achievements that warrant support for Obama's job approval as per Conservative's request.
Click to expand...

That is a liberal fall back tactic claiming that I don't like the guy. How do you know what I like or don't like. I don't like his incompetence and sure wish people like you would stop buying the liberal rhetoric and actually do some research.
 
Conservative said:
I didn't make the claim that Obama captured Obama, I thought it was Seal Team 6 nor did I say that Reagan tore down the Berlin Wall but the did destroy the Soviet Union with his economic policies according the Gorbachev but then I expect you now more than he does or so you think
Click to expand...

My point was that it's silly nitpicking over what someone presided over vs. what they did personally. I'm not getting into this pissing contest, I'm just here to comment on how history will generally remember the past presidents of my lifetime. And generally, it's looking as though Obama is doing alright. He didn't defeat terrorism or defend the earth from an alien invasion, but he's fine.
 
tres borrachos said:
Please tell me you smoked a big fat doobie before heading off to the polling place and your brain was slightly addled.
Click to expand...

Wish I could, but I have no such excuse. I brought the speeches and false promises and was ready for the hope and change after Bush's second term. Didn't help I had no one to vote for on the republican side. McCain is a long time old school crooked politician.
 
MrT said:
Proof?

By the way, you're the same keymanjim who would routinely post on Sodahead, right?
Click to expand...

Unemployment rate is currently at 5.5%
The labor force participation rate is at 62.9%
So, if the people aren't unemployed, and they aren't working, where did they go?
 
clownboy said:
Wish I could, but I have no such excuse. I brought the speeches and false promises and was ready for the hope and change after Bush's second term. Didn't help I had no one to vote for on the republican side. McCain is a long time old school crooked politician.
Click to expand...

Everyone is entitled to at least one really stupid mistake in his life. That was yours. ;)

yeah, McCain is not my favorite. He was better than the alternative but that wasn't saying much. That's how badly I viewed Obama as a candidate. I wish Joe Manchin had opposed McCain. I would have voted for him.
 
Conservative said:
No, I understand the concept of neighbor helping neighbor not a federal bureaucracy being that neighbor, now answer the questions?
Click to expand...

But you apparently are clueless about FDR and how he fundamentally changed the nation over 70 years ago. Neighbor helping neighbor is fine but FDR saw it was clearly insufficient. Obama has put us back on the path and I don't think we will be straying from it for a while. I thank GW Bush for that favor. It turns out he was not a total failure.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom