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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How do you know it was the worst recession in the country's history? You buy the headlines and ignore the data. The Great Recession was a term created by the media and the left knowing you and others like you(the Gruber electorate) would buy it. Problem is you cannot prove it nor can the left. 81-82 affected more Americans than this one and that makes it worse.
    At least you've stopped making up crap and fudging data about deficits and debt. On to new set of fact destruction now it seems.

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    It precisely destroys your belief that we had a 2 trillion dollar budget thus when revenue exceeded 2 trillion that gave us a surplus. The budget of the United States is NOT 2 trillion dollars and public debt is only part of the national debt. That is something you have a problem understanding
    Well, yes, I do have a problem understanding that gibberish. It reads like a delirium.

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

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    Interesting chart that destroys your myth about previous Presidents, use the chart to map whatever years you want but notice the debt to GDP ratio prior to Reagan and now with Obama. Cannot help but notice how digitusmedius likes your post in attacking Reagan which must mean he has a problem with Obama's spending record as well.

    United States Government Debt to GDP | 1940-2015 | Data | Chart | Calendar
    Yes, well that's what a massive recession like Bush's Great Republican Recession will do to an economy and the refusal of republicans to now raise taxes on the people who created that recession (and who are already richer than ever before) to repair the damage they caused. The republicans have succeeded in putting us on the path to being a third world country. SUCCESS!!! tea bagger version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Have you ever seen anybody on a political debate forum concede such a thing. You certainly haven't. The point however is that the actor destroyed our creditor nation status and set the example for every president that has followed to do likewise, borrow and spend. He set a terribly irresponsible precedence for every president that followed and we'll never be below a trillion in debt again. That is your heroes legacy.
    Yes, I have seen it done as I have done it in the past when proven wrong.

    Your problem is you cannot see the big picture and there are a lot like you. The big picture is the peace dividend created by Reagan defense spending which caused the destruction of the Soviet Union and thus created an opportunity for future President's to not have to spend as much on Defense as he did.

    You also ignore the benefits of creating 17 million jobs and doubling the economy which created for many less of a need from that so called govt. help. That should translate int0 less spending. So when you say he set an example for others to spend more just goes to show how little you know about return on investment

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    I expect that if we go to war we pay for it like we always have. It's not a liberal idea to pay for the wars. It's a responsible idea and conservatives (before Reagan came along and sold the rabble on the idea we could cut taxes, overspend and pay for everything at the same time) used to live by it. But these tea baggers seem to think we can get something for nothing. They're the biggest free-loaders this country has ever seen. They don't want government to touch their Medicare (which shows us how clueless they are) and they don't want to have to pay anything for it (which shows us how idiotic they are). Most three year olds are more responsible than these clowns.
    Except you don't realize that Reagan cut taxes, increase employment by 17 million which grew FIT revenue by 60%.

    Why should people have their medicare and SS put on budget when the taxes were created to fund those programs for that purpose? Imagine that, people upset that they were forced to contribute to SS and Medicare only to have it put on budget and spent creating an unfunded liability

    Not sure what you understand as the role of our Federal Govt. but it appears you have been indoctrinated into believing what you are told that Govt. is here to save you from yourself and provide all that you want. The true clowns are the people who don't understand the role of the Federal Govt. and transfer personal responsibility to them

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    Sidetracking again. You can run but you can't escape.
    Try to keep up, this chart shows other President's debt which has been claimed here as non existent.

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    At least you've stopped making up crap and fudging data about deficits and debt. On to new set of fact destruction now it seems.
    It is amazing that all those idle threats yet never posting any data that refutes what I have posted. Your surplus data is only half the story and ignores Inter-government holding deficits which led Clinton to have debt from 4.1 to 5.7 trillion. Amazing how that 1.6 trillion dollar debt of Clinton is so much better than the 1.7 trillion of Reagan's. LOL. Sorry but you are out of your element here

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, I have seen it done as I have done it in the past when proven wrong.

    Your problem is you cannot see the big picture and there are a lot like you. The big picture is the peace dividend created by Reagan defense spending which caused the destruction of the Soviet Union and thus created an opportunity for future President's to not have to spend as much on Defense as he did.

    You also ignore the benefits of creating 17 million jobs and doubling the economy which created for many less of a need from that so called govt. help. That should translate int0 less spending. So when you say he set an example for others to spend more just goes to show how little you know about return on investment
    The BIG PICTURE IS THE BAD EXAMPLE AND PRECEDENCE HE SET FOR RUNAWAY DEBT!!!!!!!!! Thanks to his incompetence, we'll likely never see it below a trillion again.
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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, what you did was ignore BLS data as there were 99 million employed when Reagan took office and when he left it was 116 million. Then what you ignored is that Clinton had a Republican Congress that gave us business tax cuts in 1997 that actually created jobs. You have a very selective memory and I can beat you up all day with official data

    Yes, and in two years he took employment from 142 million to 139 million, thank you Obama
    And at the same time you refuse to realize that America's population is changing and growing older (and our birth rate is not high enough to replace those who are growing older), and the baby boomers such as myself are leaving the workplace and retiring. Not only that, but thanks to the Affordable Care Act, there's many who were ready to retire but had to work in order to have health insurance, but are now able to retire.

    And it's not just here in America - it's happening in most of the first-world democracies, especially in Japan. It's not a matter of fewer people having jobs - it's a matter of demographics, of there being fewer people who want to work or who must work.

    And when it comes to taxes, remember when Bush 41 said, "Read my lips, no new taxes"? After Bush 41 raised taxes, he lost the next election to Clinton...but the economy was already improving thanks to him raising taxes...and Clinton raised the top marginal rate even further. In other words, Bush had already done what was necessary to get the economy back on track and deserves more credit than Clinton for the mid-90's boom.
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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    Well, yes, I do have a problem understanding that gibberish. It reads like a delirium.
    Get a fifth grader to help you read it and explain it to you

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