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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You've destroyed nothing. Setting in retirement banging away at your keyboard all day. But Reagan destroyed Americas lender status, transformed the United States into a debtor state that is now borrowing our way into oblivion. And in eighty years, you've learned nothing about that. Play with yourself.
    No question about it, Reagan destroyed America's lender status by creating a peace dividend. Bet you never made a good investment in your life. Facts, data, logic, and common sense always destroy people like you and you just cannot handle it.

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No question about it, Reagan destroyed America's lender status by creating a peace dividend. Bet you never made a good investment in your life. Facts, data, logic, and common sense always destroy people like you and you just cannot handle it.
    My finances aren't the subject, but they're fine. Reagan destroyed far more than our lender status, that's just a bit of it. Ballooning national debts, set by his example of borrowing unprecedented amounts of money is his legacy, and we're not likely to see that trend reversed.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    My finances aren't the subject, but they're fine. Reagan destroyed far more than our lender status, that's just a bit of it. Ballooning national debts, set by his example of borrowing unprecedented amounts of money is his legacy, and we're not likely to see that trend reversed.
    Do you know what a peace dividend is? You believe the amount spent to create that dividend was a good investment? Apparently you believe that President Reagan actually investing money in our defense and destroying the Soviet Union gave a green light to all future Presidents to spend money. Is that your contention?

    Here is the debt by President

    Reagan 1.7 trillion
    GHW Bush 1.4 trillion
    Clinton 1.4 trillion
    GW Bush 4.9 trillion
    Obama 7.6 trillion

    Reagan doubled GDP, created 17 million jobs, and created a peace dividend, and increased the size of the govt. by 600 billion dollars in 8 years. Wonder how many agree with you that the spending wasn't a good investment?

    Obama increased GDP 2.8 trillion dollars(842 billion in stimulus), created 6 million jobs, added 7.6 trillion dollars to the debt, lost the peace in Iraq, but he did promote same sex marriage. Wonder how may believe that is a good return on investment.

    I suggest you learn what ROI is and then we can talk about the actual results.

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you know what a peace dividend is? You believe the amount spent to create that dividend was a good investment? Apparently you believe that President Reagan actually investing money in our defense and destroying the Soviet Union gave a green light to all future Presidents to spend money. Is that your contention?

    Here is the debt by President

    Reagan 1.7 trillion
    GHW Bush 1.4 trillion
    Clinton 1.4 trillion
    GW Bush 4.9 trillion
    Obama 7.6 trillion

    Reagan doubled GDP, created 17 million jobs, and created a peace dividend, and increased the size of the govt. by 600 billion dollars in 8 years. Wonder how many agree with you that the spending wasn't a good investment?

    Obama increased GDP 2.8 trillion dollars(842 billion in stimulus), created 6 million jobs, added 7.6 trillion dollars to the debt, lost the peace in Iraq, but he did promote same sex marriage. Wonder how may believe that is a good return on investment.

    I suggest you learn what ROI is and then we can talk about the actual results.
    Until Reagan, the United States held its head high, at least in terms of fiscal responsibility, and as the greatest in lender status. Not only did Reagan flush that down the toilet, he told every president that followed him that debt isn't bad, just borrow and spend until your hearts content. And yet the democrats are constantly ridiculed as the tax and spend party. Tax and spend is better than borrow and spend, by any measure.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Until Reagan, the United States held its head high, at least in terms of fiscal responsibility, and as the greatest in lender status. Not only did Reagan flush that down the toilet, he told every president that followed him that debt isn't bad, just borrow and spend until your hearts content. And yet the democrats are constantly ridiculed as the tax and spend party. Tax and spend is better than borrow and spend, by any measure.
    No, before Reagan there was the Vietnam War and Jimmy Carter. Fiscal responsibility means making an investment in national security so other Presidents don't have to spend that money. Reagan destroyed the Soviet Union and returned this country to a nation of power and respect. You have a distorted view of history.

    Seems you buy the liberal rhetoric about what Reagan told other Presidents and totally ignore the return on investment Reagan generated. The debt of 2.6 was manageable with a 5.6 trillion dollar economy but hardly now with an 18.2 trillion dollar debt on a 17.5 trillion dollar economy

    Tax and spend in a private sector economy is an prescription for disaster and the European Socialist model. Greece is an example of that type economic model.

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, before Reagan there was the Vietnam War and Jimmy Carter. Fiscal responsibility means making an investment in national security so other Presidents don't have to spend that money. Reagan destroyed the Soviet Union and returned this country to a nation of power and respect. You have a distorted view of history.

    Seems you buy the liberal rhetoric about what Reagan told other Presidents and totally ignore the return on investment Reagan generated. The debt of 2.6 was manageable with a 5.6 trillion dollar economy but hardly now with an 18.2 trillion dollar debt on a 17.5 trillion dollar economy

    Tax and spend in a private sector economy is an prescription for disaster and the European Socialist model. Greece is an example of that type economic model.
    Setting the atrocious example of compounded debt that Reagan did, borrowing that heretofore unheard of sum of money, set a horrible example that every president has followed since, and the next GOPer will as well. Such is Reagan's wretched legacy. But really, this thread is about how that Obama's approval rating is destroying Bush's from the same time period in their respective presidencies.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Here is a problem you have, Treasury, the Bank account of the United States, doesn't support your claim because you ignore inter-govt. holdings.
    Does "ignoring" mean mentioning several times in your version of the English language. Several times I mentioned that the interest on past borrowing to cover deficits kept the debt from actually going down despite Clinton's 4 well documented years of budgetary revenue surpluses. Of course, I should have known that you wouldn't be able to understand that that comes from the purchase of T-bills by the SocSec trust fund which are the intergovernmental holdings. I must remember that someone like you always needs the training wheels and one has to start over with each post to have a chance of making you understand which is futile because you're hard-wired not to understand these things.

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    Reagan destroyed the solvency of the US treasury and began the process of this country to become a permanent debtor state.
    Fixed for accuracy. No charge and you're welcome.

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Setting the atrocious example of compounded debt that Reagan did, borrowing that heretofore unheard of sum of money, set a horrible example that every president has followed since, and the next GOPer will as well. Such is Reagan's wretched legacy. But really, this thread is about how that Obama's approval rating is destroying Bush's from the same time period in their respective presidencies.
    How do you think the Vietnam War was paid for and do you endorse that technique? You think LBJ was right? Did LBJ and Congress set the example for other Presidents in using SS and Medicare funds for that war? What exactly do you think the role of the Federal Govt. is? Bush's approval rating was misguided and based upon a war that the surge won and now a peace that Obama has lost. I know you have no understanding of evil and world affairs but the reality is the situation in Iraq is worse today than when Bush left office and the world is less safe today than when Bush left office. The liberal ignorance and support for incompetence is staggering.

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    Fixed for accuracy. No charge and you're welcome.
    Really? so you believe a 2.6 trillion dollar debt on a 5.6 trillion dollar economy is insolvency? Do you even know what insolvency is? Hard to insolvent when you can print money, don't you think?

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