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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Is it going to go up, stay the same, or decrease?
    I don't have a crystal ball. Do you?

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    I don't have a crystal ball. Do you?
    You were sure it was not going to go down, which you claiming you have a crystal ball.

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    It can't be ignored that since 2011 he's had the worst Congress to deal with since before the Civil War and maybe ever.
    Talk about biased ignorance. Democrats had control of the Congress from January 2007 to January 2011 and what exactly did we get? Trillions added to the debt, 16 million unemployed/discouraged, stagnant GDP. You must be so proud.

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    Well, congratulations. You just explained why your data is tainted much more succinctly than I did. But I would point out that Jan 21, 2009, was also AFTER the BEGINNING of FY2009 which was Oct. 1, 2008. I don't know when I've enjoyed something more than smacking you down on this and you just keep coming back for more.
    So let's see if I have this straight, Bush proposed a budget in 2008 as required, it was rejected by Congress so he agreed to continuing resolutions at 2008 level, got approved 3 of 12 spending bills, signed the TARP bill which was for 700 billion dollars and was a loan, spent 350 billion of it, had a deficit of 500 billion dollars in January 2009(350 billion of which was TARP, and he is responsible for all the spending after the continuing resolutions expired, after Obama signed the 2009 budget, and after Obama recycled TARP instead of reducing the deficit with the repayment? Is that right? I believe people can see now why Liberals like you have no credibility and why Gruber was right about the Democrat electorate

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    Which is false. It stood at $11.9T on Sep. 30, 2009 which was the end of Bush's last FY in office. I'm going to take one more stab at educating you by giving you this link to a website run by a very conservative (a frequent contributor to American Thinker) named Christopher Chantrill. Please note the amount for the FY 2009 deficit at the top of the column title "Bush Deficits" and then read his footnote below. Never mind, I'll quote what he says here (emphasis added so even you can't claim you didn't see it):

    I'm not optimistic that this will change your determination to continue to make false claims. In fact, I'm almost sure it won't. But it will show everyone following this exchange just how dishonest the "data" you keep putting up is.
    Only in the liberal world where people like you buy the Obama narrative. He knew you would blame Bush, Gruber knew you would blame Bush but the reality is you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. 350 billion TARP money in the deficit but was paid back but Obama recycled it, yet Bush is responsible. Absolutely stunning ignorance

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    This is a good sign that the presidency will stay in the hands of the Democrats in 2016. Nevertheless, Obama has had a pretty mixed record. He's probably one of our best presidents, which says something about the low standards set by previous presidents.
    LOL, now that is funny and that makes Gruber proud. By what standards?

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    Well, sure, if we ignore the fact that Clinton had set us on a course of debt reduction with 4 straight years of surpluses just before Bush came in and he and the republicans immediately destroyed with massive tax giveaways to the rich. It also ignores the fact that although the first two years of Obama's presidency continued with trillion dollar deficits (in the midst of at least the second worst economic collapse in this country's history) deficits have dropped faster than at any time since WWII (when tax rates had the highest bracket at 90 percent). Republicans have successfully blocked almost every effort to use the tax system (as was done in the post-war period) to correct those deficits which could have put the country on long term fiscal stability. No. The two parties are not at all equal on this issue despite that simplistic urge of so many to make that claim.
    I gave you the link to the Treasury data so would you please point out the four straight years of Clinton surpluses? Thanks

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    Here are the budget numbers for Clinton budgets (FY1994-2001, numbers are billions; a "-" sign indicates budget surpluses):

    1994 203.18
    1995 163.95
    1996 107.43
    1997 21.89
    1998 -69.27
    1999 -125.61
    2000 -236.24
    2001 -128.23

    Here's the source: Government Spending MultiYear Download for United States 1994-2020 - Federal State Local

    Here's the result of the arithmetic (rounding to the billion): $85 Net surplus for his 8 years in office. The reason the debt continued to go up was the fact that interest on the debt continued to add to the previously created debt, all but $300B, was from the Reagan tax cuts and profligate spending. No doubt you will refuse to believe any of these hard, cold facts but that doesn't change anything.
    Interesting how you ignore reality as usual, budget numbers are irrelevant as it is spending that counts, budget spending AND intergovt. holdings. You really need a civics class

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

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    LOL, now that is funny and that makes Gruber proud. By what standards?
    As a human being with personal opinions, I judge Obama and all other politicians by my own personal standards.

    Seriously though, what kind of question is that?
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    As a human being with personal opinions, I judge Obama and all other politicians by my own personal standards.

    Seriously though, what kind of question is that?
    Then you judge by those liberal standards that Gruber was talking about, thinking with your heart and not your brain. Actual results matter and Obama is making Jimmy Carter look good. You made the statement that Obama was one of our greatest Presidents so the logical question is by what standards?

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