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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you live under the belief that you have to give an affirmative consent for all things in our nation in which you participate in one way or another?
    Are you asking a legal question (which is pointless)?

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    May I point out the private insurance works on this principal. You are either a funder or beneficiary. We do not have pay-as-you-go health care, (although prior to the PPACA, we had it more than most countries as you could be rolled out the system with a pre-existing condition). No one pays dollar for dollar on his/her healthcare. You pay your premiums, which have baked in a estimated probability that you get a disease or condition that is financially catastrophic. Since the premium is based on an expected value (probability * cost * mark-up), should you actually get the disease, you neighbor pays the freight. If, instead, he gets the disease instead of you, you pay for your neighbor. The only difference between private health insurance and a government health insurance is the profit motive (which can be a good or a bad thing)..
    Look, there is no question that reform is necessary, the question is whether or not ACA is that solution. Anything the Federal Govt. gets involved in has good intentions but always costs more than expected and does less than expected. The biggest issues I see are portability as well as insurance for the previously uninsurable. Both can be fixed without ACA. I find it hard to understand why anyone would support another Federal entitlement program administered by the Federal govt. that is currently over 18 trillion dollars in debt. Mandating that any American has to buy especially for personal responsibility issues should send a chill down the spine of every freedom loving American. I am sure you enjoy being told what to do or what to buy?

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    A lot of National defense spending is done without my consent also, but themes the breaks.
    Except national defense is in the Constitution, healthcare isn't

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Are you asking a legal question (which is pointless)?
    Simply a question arising from your statement. No legal opinion is necessary as we are not in court.
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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Simply a question arising from your statement. No legal opinion is necessary as we are not in court.
    Are you asking if I prefer consent to be the relevant factor in relationships and business transactions?

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Are you asking if I prefer consent to be the relevant factor in relationships and business transactions?
    Oh no - something much more to the point arising from what you said in your own post - namely what the heck does CONSENT have to do with a national program which applies to the citizenry which has been passed by the peoples government and upheld by the judiciary?
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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wow, you will go to no end to distort and lie about the Reagan record. Had a very good friend stationed in Granada who was saved by the U.S. Marines there and he tells a different story but then again you are an expert in just about everything even though you were never there.
    Wow. Reagan's apologists will go to no end to manufacture crap to cover his crimes.

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Oh no - something much more to the point arising from what you said in your own post - namely what the heck does CONSENT have to do with a national program which applies to the citizenry which has been passed by the peoples government and upheld by the judiciary?
    So you lied when you said you were not asking a legal question. Again, the legal aspect of that is pointless. Huuur its the law.

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Except national defense is in the Constitution, healthcare isn't
    The founders would role over in their graves if they knew the size and scope our defense spending today. Most of them didn't even like the idea of a standing army and preferred the country be defended by citizen militias.
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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, and except for Federal Govt. mandates the communities in TX take care of their own which is the right way of doing things, not delegating responsibility for your state to the Federal Taxpayers
    Thing is, the communities don't. TX has the highest rate of uninsured people in the country.

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