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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I support Gruber's claim that the Democrat electorate is stupid
    And what about the GOP electorate that has Trump right under Bush and ahead of everybody else, lol?? Think that electorate is bright.
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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Wow that was harsh even for you. I agree that the U.S. is too much like the S.S United States and take longer to "turn" than she should. But I think you took 9/11 a bit hard if you care. You think the terrorists won? You should see the Freedom Tower in person. It is magnificent as is the memorial with 2 reflecting pools in the footprints of the World Trade Center Towers. It is not the work of a defeated nation.
    We can STILL do amazing things if we work together. Happy 4th of July.
    Americans can and do do amazing things. I think his criticism is more towards the leadership that we've had in the country for so long. As to the WTC memorial, you can throw money at anything and look amazing. What would be nice is to see a foreign policy in the Middle East that is constructive, lifts the region up, as opposed to the destructive policies that have been advanced in the region for decades, and as our intelligence agencies have declared in their NIE, have created American enemies, caused an increase in global terrorism, and made America less safe. Which means that we could have another 9/11 which you might see as another opportunity for another amazing memorial that proves American exceptionalism. But I would view it as continued American leadership failure. And who was it that just said that we are presently at our highest threat level for exactly another 9/11 type attack here? That's what the intelligence agency said was the risk of our continued ME failed policies!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Harman View Post
    He used his political clout, charisma and savior faire to win over certain elements to make the ACA politically feasible.
    Even won over a right leaning Supreme Court justice that has twice ensured that the ACA lives!!
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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    Who gives a ****? He isnt running for election again and everyone with a brain knows that he is a ****ing loser setting our country up for complete destruction.
    Right. Because providing health care and equal rights is destruction. Same thing the GOP said when we were busy providing social security, Medicare and civil rights in times past.
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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That's true. That sad fact doesn't make Obama any better though.
    And that's true too. And plenty of Obama's base is disenchanted with him as well. Some of the things that are disappointing to them, which may not be to you, is that he promised increased whistleblower protections, but in fact has prosecuted more than any predecessor, promised to rid Washington of lobbyist influence, when in fact it's increased, promised the most transparent presidency, when in fact it's been the least, and promised to talk to our "enemies" in the ME, when in fact he's advanced Bush type policies there, except on steroids!!!!!!
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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It appears that all the victories last week have boosted Obama's approval rating to 50% for the 1st time since 2013. I guess more of us are proud to be an American.



    Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week - CNNPolitics.com
    More of YOU are proud of Obama, the rest of us have always been proud Americans.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    No...I don't think it was meant for left or right, I think he was talking about the electorate as a whole. I think he was wrong about using the word "stupidity" because ignorance is a better word...
    The context matters and it is context that you ignore. It was about Gruber selling the program to the American electorate and those who saw through the liberal entitlement façade aren't the stupid ones, those that bought the bs are and he knew he could sell it to those people

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And what about the GOP electorate that has Trump right under Bush and ahead of everybody else, lol?? Think that electorate is bright.
    Conservative principles and values are verified by actual results, therein lies the difference. Liberals think with their hearts whereas conservatives think with their brain. I don't think any Obama supporter should be talking about Conservative candidates as not being qualified or having Trump ahead of Jeb Bush. Obama was incompetent when elected and re-elected and the results show it

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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Americans can and do do amazing things. I think his criticism is more towards the leadership that we've had in the country for so long. As to the WTC memorial, you can throw money at anything and look amazing. What would be nice is to see a foreign policy in the Middle East that is constructive, lifts the region up, as opposed to the destructive policies that have been advanced in the region for decades, and as our intelligence agencies have declared in their NIE, have created American enemies, caused an increase in global terrorism, and made America less safe. Which means that we could have another 9/11 which you might see as another opportunity for another amazing memorial that proves American exceptionalism. But I would view it as continued American leadership failure. And who was it that just said that we are presently at our highest threat level for exactly another 9/11 type attack here? That's what the intelligence agency said was the risk of our continued ME failed policies!!!!!!!!!!!
    I don't blame Obama for the M.E. clusterf-ck. I think he is trying something different there and that's at least a start. We can't continue the failed policies of the past and expect different results. We need to get the countries in the region involved or there will never be peace there. As far as threat levels, I see them as meaningless. We are always under threat of terrorists, it is what we do to thwart those threats that is of importance. I firmly believe 911 could have been prevented under different leadership for example.
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    Re: Obama's approval rating grows following memorable week

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Conservative principles and values are verified by actual results, therein lies the difference. Liberals think with their hearts whereas conservatives think with their brain. I don't think any Obama supporter should be talking about Conservative candidates as not being qualified or having Trump ahead of Jeb Bush. Obama was incompetent when elected and re-elected and the results show it
    We saw the results of conservatives on 911, the ill fated Iraq invasion, Katrina, the 2008 financial collapse and ensuing Great Recession. The brains of the neo-conservatives are something to worry about. You might think it is a coincidence that nothing like any of those has happened under Obama but that would be because you don't really look at results only ideology.
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