What is it going to take for you to realize what a fool liberals have made of you? You buy the rhetoric and ignore the reality. Please explain to me why if the economy is so good that Obama lost the Congress. you parrot the liberal talking points without doing any research and out of total ignorance of the U.S. economy and our private sector. People who have retired aren't counted as discouraged or under employed and therein lies why the unemployment rate is being lowered. How do you explain a labor force 7 years ago of 154 million and only a 3 million increase today almost 8 years later? Labor force grew over 10 million during the Bush 8 yearsMrT;1064775995]And if private sector jobs had declined, would you blame Obama's "job killing policies" as you tried to do in the previous post? As for your claim that the unemployment is decreasing because people are just dropping from the labor force, let us be clear about who we are discussing. When you mention folks "dropping from the labor pool," are you also including those individuals who no longer wish to work at all (e.g. retiring)? Or can we limit that discussion to those individuals who dropped out temporarily, but wish to look for a job in the future?
The U-6 rate is 10.8% today after adding 7.6 trillion to the debt. The American electorate continues to vote for conservatives in state and local elections and to give Obama credit for the private sector employment gains ignores the under employed number created by Obama policiesBecause if it is the later, you're wrong. I know this because that number gets tracked as the U6 unemployment rate. The unemployment rate which also counts individuals that are marginally attached (i.e. working part time, but would like to work more hours) and those who temporarily discouraged (i.e. wish to look again in the near future).
At the height of the recession, the U6 was at 17.1 in October-December of 2009, that rate currently sits at 10.8%.
Yes, amazing isn't it, 842 billion in stimulus and the U6 rate is 10.8? That isn't leadership that is incompetence and total lack of leadership. When the stimulus was passed there were 142 million employed people and two years later that was 139 million. That seems to be very low expectations from a liberal.
No single shred of evidence? Apparently the CIA disagrees with you and last I checked that CIA was under Obama leadership
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GWB was responsible for our "moral downfall" with the whole torture thing? Have you like...NEVER read books on the Cold War? Try this one:
http://www.whale.to/b/ciaass.htmlThis 127-page report, classified Secret, was drafted in July 1963 as a comprehensive guide for training interrogators in the art of obtaining intelligence from "resistant sources." KUBARK--a CIA codename for itself--describes the qualifications of a successful interroga
1963. Bush was 17. Yea sorry. You clearly don't understand how the intelligence community has worked since it began. Do you know what bush did wrong? PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. Our assets got caught. The world of intelligence and counter intelligence is a dark and scary world. It is the matter of national interests, security, and the dark secrets. And I'm not just saying this to be sensational. Just read Sun Tzu and you will understand that it is nothing new.
The only sheep is the one trying to cram morals into a business that has NONE, NEVER HAD ANY, and NEVER WILL. You think torture doesn't happen under Obama? Please.
EVERY Nation engages in this stuff. Things like catching people cheating on wives for blackmail, trapping homosexuals (back in the older times) for black mail, and outright murder. Extortion, drugs, framing, and whatever else you can think of to gain leverage. That is the world of national secrets. And the terrorist organizations reached a level that caused Americans intelligence to react to them. Oops.
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The Crowd is not the sum of its parts.
Fact or lie
Obama inherited an employment number of 142 million, signed an 842 billion dollar stimulus, and had 139 million employed two years later??
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Obama inherited a 10.6 trillion dollar debt and has a debt today of 18.2 trillion??
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Obama signed the fiscal year 2009 budget?
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Obama had 1.3 million discouraged workers in December 2009 and those individuals aren't counted in the official unemployment rate?
So much for the Obama approval rating which just goes to show supporters don't really care about results and support Obama based upon feelings and thinking with their heart.