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    Cruz: Opposition To Same-Sex Marriage Will Be 'Front And Center' In 2016 Camp...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The inconsideration with which some people so easily dismiss democracy borders on negligence. Ironically, the callousness of your response in itself makes the best anti-democracy argument thus far on this thread.

    Still, I would rather ride with the will of the people than with the will of 9 unknown, unelected lawyers
    You know what though? He's right.

    The masses shouldn't be trusted to vote on the civil rights and liberties of minorities.

    Those 9 unknown, unelected lawyers chose to give my people freedom while the masses were against it because putting my people away in institutions gave them cushy jobs. They made money off of our backs, and our freedom represented an economic danger for them.

    Homosexuals were denied equality on the basis of the majority's discomfort with their existence. They were not causing harm, but the masses said "God wills me to hate you and oppress you."

    Screw the public and its ideas of democracy.
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    Re: Cruz: Opposition To Same-Sex Marriage Will Be 'Front And Center' In 2016 Camp...

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    I was being sarcastic.
    Oh. Sarcasm meter is broken, apparently

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    Re: Cruz: Opposition To Same-Sex Marriage Will Be 'Front And Center' In 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You know what though? He's right.

    The masses shouldn't be trusted to vote on the civil rights and liberties of minorities.

    Those 9 unknown, unelected lawyers chose to give my people freedom while the masses were against it because putting my people away in institutions gave them cushy jobs. They made money off of our backs, and our freedom represented an economic danger for them.

    Screw the public and its ideas of democracy.
    Not sure who your people are, but the Supreme Court ruled in FAVOR of slavery.

    Abraham Limcoln and the Union army freed your people, not the court.

    So guess who put ole honest abe in power...the PEOPLE.

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    Re: Cruz: Opposition To Same-Sex Marriage Will Be 'Front And Center' In 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Not sure who your people are, but the Supreme Court ruled in FAVOR of slavery.

    Abraham Limcoln and the Union army freed your people, not the court.

    So guess who put ole honest abe in power...the PEOPLE.
    The disabled.

    And yes, you wise masses fought against our freedom because it hurt you economically.
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    Re: Cruz: Opposition To Same-Sex Marriage Will Be 'Front And Center' In 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The disabled.

    And yes, you wise masses fought against our freedom because it hurt you economically.
    Freedom of the disabled? Huh?

    Context please

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    Cruz: Opposition To Same-Sex Marriage Will Be 'Front And Center' In 2016 Camp...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Freedom of the disabled? Huh?

    Context please
    Research it yourself.

    The matter is that you seem to think it justified to put minority rights up for vote by the majority.

    The majority oppress the minority every chance they get. In order to receive basic human rights you democrats want us to get on our knees to beg, and beg everyone to secure liberties you folks take for granted.

    Not only is it demeaning it is also not virtuous.

    The majority do not have the right nor do they deserve the right to dictate what freedoms and liberties are not going to be bestowed to peoples they hate.
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    Re: Cruz: Opposition To Same-Sex Marriage Will Be 'Front And Center' In 2016 Camp...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Research it yourself.

    The matter is that you seem to think it justified to put minority rights up for vote by the majority.

    The majority oppress the minority every chance they get. In order to receive basic human rights you democrats want us to get on our knees to beg, and beg everyone to secure liberties you folks take for granted.

    Not only is it demeaning it is also not virtuous.

    The majority do not have the right nor do they deserve the right to dictate what freedoms and liberties are not going to be bestowed to peoples they hate.
    I favor electing Supreme Court judges the same way we elect senators. You don't make every decision for your senator, do you? No...but it's a good thing we have that oversight where we can hold him or her accountable by voting him out of office if necessary.

    I'm sorry you have such a low opinion of the inherent goodness of the American People. Personally, I think that while nobody is perfect, there's no wagon I'd rather hitch mine to than the American People.

    This is the greatest country on earth, and our people are the reason

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    Cruz: Opposition To Same-Sex Marriage Will Be 'Front And Center' In 2016 Camp...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I favor electing Supreme Court judges the same way we elect senators. You don't make every decision for your senator, do you? No...but it's a good thing we have that oversight where we can hold him or her accountable by voting him out of office if necessary.

    I'm sorry you have such a low opinion of the inherent goodness of the American People. Personally, I think that while nobody is perfect, there's no wagon I'd rather hitch mine to than the American People.

    This is the greatest country on earth, and our people are the reason
    By putting them to vote you want their decisions to not be based on justice, but your temperamental whims. You also want this because a minority won basic human rights. Your hatred should not be the primary determinant to whether minorities get rights. It's transparent as can be because you have faith that gays are less likely to have civil rights if you can get democracy in there, and that's why you want the American people to have more influence in the outcomes of the court system.

    I don't have faith in the American people with minority civil liberties. There's few more likely to remove my civil liberties than my neighbor. Why? Because they are bigoted, hateful creatures who neither understand issues or rights in front of them, nor do they pay much mind to the consequences of such actions.
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    Re: Cruz: Opposition To Same-Sex Marriage Will Be 'Front And Center' In 2016 Camp...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    By putting them to vote you want their decisions to not be based on justice, but your temperamental whims. You also want this because a minority won basic human rights. Your hatred should not be the primary determinant to whether minorities get rights. It's transparent as can be because you have faith that gays are less likely to have civil rights if you can get democracy in there, and that's why you want the American people to have more influence in the outcomes of the court system.

    I don't have faith in the American people with minority civil liberties. There's few more likely to remove my civil liberties than my neighbor. Why? Because they are bigoted, hateful creatures who neither understand issues or rights in front of them, nor do they pay much mind to the consequences of such actions.
    Agree to disagree, but no need to make this personal.

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    Re: Cruz: Opposition To Same-Sex Marriage Will Be 'Front And Center' In 2016 Camp...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I'm sorry you have such a low opinion of the inherent goodness of the American People. Personally, I think that while nobody is perfect, there's no wagon I'd rather hitch mine to than the American People.

    This is the greatest country on earth, and our people are the reason
    Lmao:

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Every time election season comes around, it makes me think less of the American people. Americans are TERRIBLE at picking candidates these days.
    We know that sentiment wouldn't apply to these imaginary SCOTUS elections if you're on the losing end... right?
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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