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    Re: SCOTUS Rules Against EPA Pollution Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    To be fair the EPA did this to themselves by blatantly ignoring that the health of industry is part of their job.
    Agreed. The same could be said of Congress, it seems to me, but no one is holding them accountable.
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    Re: SCOTUS Rules Against EPA Pollution Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It will be just another CBO that is wrong every single time. Doing math is hard for government, you know. Apparently lawyers are really bad at math. Who knew?
    Agreed, and hence my call for independent and more realistic analysis and vetting of those results before they are implemented in more poorly thought out and written regulations (seems that lawyers aren't good at writing laws either! ).
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    Re: SCOTUS Rules Against EPA Pollution Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I noticed that the Supreme Court didn't consider the cost of all the regulations they must comply to in the ruling. I think if they are really going to go with the cost angle they have to consider the cost of all regulations.
    Yeah. In some larger businesses, there are thousands working devoted entirely to regulatory compliance. Since I've done it, I can't tell you how exciting it is to spend all day reading the Federal Register without crying.

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    Re: SCOTUS Rules Against EPA Pollution Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Agreed, and hence my call for independent and more realistic analysis and vetting of those results before they are implemented in more poorly thought out and written regulations (seems that lawyers aren't good at writing laws either! ).
    and yet, most of our laws are written by lawyers. English majors would do a better job, as they know how to write in English.
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    Re: SCOTUS Rules Against EPA Pollution Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Agreed. The same could be said of Congress, it seems to me, but no one is holding them accountable.
    Honest news media fulfilling your part of your social contract (speaking truth to power and holding politicians accountable)!
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    Re: SCOTUS Rules Against EPA Pollution Rules

    Good. Let's just say I work in a "business" that has to deal with the dictates of the EPA on occasion (if only from a second-order effect), and I am happy that they have been reigned in slightly. My experiences with this agency is one of dealing with a universe lazy, un-insightful and self-preserving "C" students, encased in a bloated government edifice and endowed with a singular agenda that really cannot comprehend how wealth is generated. Cross these dimwits with the much sharper people that work on the "other side" and make it a mission to compromise them, and you have a resultant mud that neither protects our environment or grows our economy.

    At the end of the day, it is just another agency in the lap of the Executive branch, and will do the requested bidding appropriately. I really do think that you can accomplish some very constructive things via collaboration with industry and regulatory bodies (please don't use the tired "drill baby drill" refrain with me, I make quite a bit of bread via energy exploration, and that phrase is facile and moronic). The current EPA is a long way from such a place.

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    Re: SCOTUS Rules Against EPA Pollution Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Yeah. In some larger businesses, there are thousands working devoted entirely to regulatory compliance. Since I've done it, I can't tell you how exciting it is to spend all day reading the Federal Register without crying.
    100% indicative of a larger problem, as is . . . .
    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie_V View Post
    Good. Let's just say I work in a "business" that has to deal with the dictates of the EPA on occasion (if only from a second-order effect), and I am happy that they have been reigned in slightly. My experiences with this agency is one of dealing with a universe lazy, un-insightful and self-preserving "C" students, encased in a bloated government edifice and endowed with a singular agenda that really cannot comprehend how wealth is generated. Cross these dimwits with the much sharper people that work on the "other side" and make it a mission to compromise them, and you have a resultant mud that neither protects our environment or grows our economy.

    At the end of the day, it is just another agency in the lap of the Executive branch, and will do the requested bidding appropriately. I really do think that you can accomplish some very constructive things via collaboration with industry and regulatory bodies (please don't use the tired "drill baby drill" refrain with me, I make quite a bit of bread via energy exploration, and that phrase is facile and moronic). The current EPA is a long way from such a place.
    Government employment, because the marginal and incompetent need employment too!

    I too think the EPA could stand some thinning out. I'd wager that 5 years of 10% year on year budget cuts would make some much needed staffing and scope choices to be made. But that's just my opinion.
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    Re: SCOTUS Rules Against EPA Pollution Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Now Obama will have to find a new way to destroy an entire industry and jack up electric rates.

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    Re: SCOTUS Rules Against EPA Pollution Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    What we really need is someone with the political balls to end the EPA as we know it today, and replace the organization with something that has more accountability to Congress and cannot at their own discretion come up with regulation policy
    That won't happen as long as Obama is in charge.

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    Re: SCOTUS Rules Against EPA Pollution Rules

    Reuters points out how it is a significant blow to BO.


    Scalia suggested in his opinion that the government did not consider whether their regulations would impose any harm on human health.

    "The government concedes that if the agency were to find that emissions from power plants do damage to human health, but that the technologies needed to eliminate these emissions do even more damage to human health, it would still deem regulation appropriate," he wrote. "No regulation is 'appropriate' if it does significantly more harm than good."

    In a fiery dissent, Justice Elena Kagan said the EPA acted "well within its authority" in imposing regulations that could save "many, many lives."

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) hailed the Supreme Court's decision, saying it represents a "cutting rebuke to the administration's callous attitude." "Obama administration officials like to pretend that the costs of their massive and regressive regulations either don't exist or don't matter," McConnell said. "Middle-class families in Kentucky and across our country don't have that luxury, and are often the first to suffer.".....snip~

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/suprem...144414979.html

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