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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You don't need permission to be with someone or be involved in a private marriage. You do need "permission" or rather recognition though if you want benefits, rights, protections for that legal kinship. Just as you need to go through the proper channels to adopt a child, to establish a legal kinship with a child that isn't yours. And unless you want to face or have your child face some serious problems in the future, you also need to file for a birth certificate to establish that legal kinship as well.

    We value familial relationships and encourage them, as well as protect those with such relationships. Spouse is a familial relationship, hence the benefits associated with it. There is much more as well, but I don't feel like going into it again.
    Why should the government encourage relationships? That seems like a pretty dated idea to me.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    The authority of the states and the authority of the people of each state to set policy within their state on those matters in which the U.S. Constitution are silent, per the 10th Amendment, has absolutely been violated.
    Incorrect. The 14th amendment requires equal protection under the law. Any authority the states have under the 10th amendment is still subject to such.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Incorrect. The 14th amendment requires equal protection under the law. Any authority the states have under the 10th amendment is still subject to such.
    Only if the courts say so. Otherwise, not so much.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    For whatever value x, the assertion is wrong on its face x number of times.

    The Constitution does not say "marriage is a right," not in those words, not in any words. If you say otherwise, you're lying.

    If you want to prove you're not lying, cite the text within the U.S. Constitution that says "marriage is a right." You can't do so, in fact.
    The 9th amendment.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Only if the courts say so. Otherwise, not so much.
    ... huh, I could have sworn I heard something about this on the news the other day...
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The 9th amendment.
    Which has diddly to do with government marriage.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The 9th amendment.
    That same 9th Amendment that guarantees my right as a citizen to come into your house and **** on your bed?

    I mean, it totally does, of course. At least as much as it says anything about marriage.

    You just have to get out decoder glasses. And take just the right amount of LSD.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    And nothing whatsoever prohibits each state from defining what contracts within it are legally valid.
    Unequal protection under the law is a power specifically prohibited.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    ... huh, I could have sworn I heard something about this on the news the other day...
    Yeah, that's because they decided it was one of those cases where it applied. The whole thing is arbitrary really.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    This is what I find interesting. the SCOTUS struck down the defense of marriage act because they said that the federal government did not have the power to define marriage.
    so what the SCOTUS did was break their own previous ruling by ruling by defining marriage at the federal level.

    I think it needs to be reargued under that argument.
    No, the Supreme court has not defined marriage.
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