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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Religious beliefs are not dispensation from doing ones job.
    No worries, we can simply change the job description.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I call bull. I guarantee that if someone at the DMV told you that they would not serve you due to your race, religion or sex, you would be pissed at that person and seek some sort of justice for having been made to feel like you weren't worth that person's time due to something out of your control, and not even because they were busy. It is their job to serve the public, the whole public, not just those they agree with.
    Oh, I guarantee you that my skin is much too thick, and my time much too valuable to be wasted on lawsuits everytime someone didn't treat
    me the exact same way they treat others.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    No worries, we can simply change the job description.
    Being a clerk has a job description in this case it is issuing marriage licenses it would be difficult to change this. Better that the people change jobs, get suspended, or be terminated. The job they are holding has nothing to do with religion and they work for the government which is a non discriminatory non religious employer. A persons personal religious views really don't matter in this case.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

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    Oh, I guarantee you that my skin is much too thick, and my time much too valuable to be wasted on lawsuits everytime someone didn't treat
    me the exact same way they treat others.
    If your time is too valuable, then there is no way you would be happy about someone wasting it in delaying in because of their problems with something about you, like your race, sex, religion, spouse, etc.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This is simply going to get the state sued, for monetary amounts, as well as these clerks. If I were them, I'd think about that before they deny any marriage licenses. The SCOTUS is not going to allow this, nor are other federal courts and it will move quickly. This is assuming that Obama and the Justice Department doesn't step in before that time.
    If many states followed Texas's we could tie up the courts all over the country showing this pathetic law is just that pathetic. Texas is the Lexus of justice.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    If many states followed Texas's we could tie up the courts all over the country showing this pathetic law is just that pathetic. Texas is the Lexus of justice.
    No. All it would do would be to cause many people to get sued, possibly fired and several states and towns/cities/municipalities to lose money in not only fighting the lawsuits but also in the payouts that they are most certainly going to end of being required to pay to those who file the suits.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Bob jones University had nothing to do with couples getting married but rather a university losing a certain tax status because it was refusing to allow interracial couples in the school. It wasn't a church, nor is a school equivalent to a church, nor is going to school the same thing as having a religious ceremony.
    I guess it would help to understand how legal precedence can impact other issues. The law has to do with principles, and how they apply, and not necessarily specifics related to identical issues.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I guess it would help to understand how legal precedence can impact other issues. The law has to do with principles, and how they apply, and not necessarily specifics related to identical issues.
    Its easy, the same principle that applied there doesn't apply to churches. Churches are free and have always been free to choose who they will perform a ceremony for. They're discriminatory practices have no connection to their tax exempt status.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    There is still gay bashing. There are businesses that do not want to serve us. There is gay bullying in schools still. There is still gay bashing. We are not just gays and lesbians we are every filthy name some can speak. If a child comes out at home they are asked to leave or stay in a home where they are hated even by there parents. Gay teens are the largest segment of homeless kids. Suicide rates are high. The flippant they are gay so what comment does not fly at all. The in your face issues start with the lies people are taught. They are told we are perverts and we make a choice to be gay. It starts when people choose not to understand. Those are the emotional attacks and yes this is the energy.
    I will stand by what I said and SCOTUS will not make churches marry gays. I think the churches should have lost their tax status years ago when they began to support political policies or candidates and when they choose to fight some policies The Prop 8 campaign put down by the Mormon Church and the Catholic Church.
    I can't find your comment on immigration. If you recall it of link it I will respond.
    You are describing an ignorant segment of the population. There are fools in every segment. There are parents who don't understand, but there are also peers who are likely the worst offenders. How do you plan to legislate against them?

    People hate. It's a sad but true reality. I can't venture into certain parts of Southern California because the color of my skin would make me a target. Oh well.

    Proposition 8 passed by a majority of voters in California. It serves no purpose other than to delude yourself that it was the Mormans, or the Catholics who caused it to pass. The fact is, the issue revolved over an attempt to co-opt a word that the majority of people wanted to preserve. The Gay Community refused to respect and understand that, and in retribution, sought to destroy anyone who they could expose that agreed with the attempt to preserve the meaning of a word. I think you will find that people are rather accommodating, to a point. However, it appears there is a limit to what people are willing to let groups co-opt for themselves. Lots of unnecessary emotional damage arises from these efforts. To many, it appears the issue is not about the right, but about the demand to take something special from them. A risky plan that should be expected to stir up lots of negative emotions and outbursts. It's probably a bit much to expect it wouldn't.

    As to immigration, read post #1425 in this thread.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    You are describing an ignorant segment of the population. There are fools in every segment. There are parents who don't understand, but there are also peers who are likely the worst offenders. How do you plan to legislate against them?

    People hate. It's a sad but true reality. I can't venture into certain parts of Southern California because the color of my skin would make me a target. Oh well.

    Proposition 8 passed by a majority of voters in California. It serves no purpose other than to delude yourself that it was the Mormans, or the Catholics who caused it to pass. The fact is, the issue revolved over an attempt to co-opt a word that the majority of people wanted to preserve. The Gay Community refused to respect and understand that, and in retribution, sought to destroy anyone who they could expose that agreed with the attempt to preserve the meaning of a word. I think you will find that people are rather accommodating, to a point. However, it appears there is a limit to what people are willing to let groups co-opt for themselves. Lots of unnecessary emotional damage arises from these efforts. To many, it appears the issue is not about the right, but about the demand to take something special from them. A risky plan that should be expected to stir up lots of negative emotions and outbursts. It's probably a bit much to expect it wouldn't.

    As to immigration, read post #1425 in this thread.
    Some gay bashing beatings bulling and so on is okay in your eyes. It is also more than just some a lot of this goes on. Lots and Lots. You may not feel like that if you are in the minority. To say oh it's no big deal because all segment hate. Wow that is really special. I will look at te immigration comment. Peers who are worse offenders? I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. Parents who don't understand so they disown their child? Yipes this is harsh. There is no post #1425 in this thread it goes up to #480. I looked at #425 in case and I can't find the comment there either.
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