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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by keymanjim View Post
    I am already paying for it. 55% of my property taxes go to a bloated school system that will now have it in their heads that they have to teach children that homosexuality is normal.
    you're not paying enough in property taxes then

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

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    "Libertarian - Right"

    You need to change that moniker to something else. While you might be right wing you are no libertarian.
    This site is full of right-wing Republicans who are too embarrassed to admit that they are Republican so they use the "Libertarian" label. Their posts constantly give them away though....

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    The suggestion of lawsuits came from AG Paxton. He told employees they can refuse to issue licenses and if later lawsuits occurred there would be a legal to team to defend them. The Attorney General spoke about this. Religious views would not be an excuse for doing your job. Not doing the job you were hired for by non issuance of a license might be illegal Paxton must think.
    I don't know that anyone was hired to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, that just recently became part of the job description. The office could make it a job requirement for all clerks, but I don't know that they're required to so long as they can work out a solution that keeps everyone at least somewhat happy. Clearly, it would need to be a requirement for some.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I don't see why this necessarily leads to lawsuits, or why it can't be done in a way that avoids contempt charges. So long as there is someone in the office that can issue licenses, it doesn't really matter much if it's Bob or Barbara taking care of you. It only turns into a problem if they're not issuing licenses to one group altogether (i.e. all clerks claim a religious exemption).
    Who says the religious exemption has to be about the sexes of the couple? And who says they would have to be the same? Maybe one objects to their religion or relative religions, one objects to their being an interracial couple, and the other objects to their different socio-economic classes getting married. All of these things can be and are religious objections from one group or another.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    you're not paying enough in property taxes then
    I'm paying too much as it is. Now, I'll probably have to pay to clean up after the hands on segment of gay studies is finished.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    just because they are a public employee they do not give up their 1st amendment rights one of which is free exercise of religions.
    IE the government cannot force them to do something against their religious beliefs.

    if anything texas will have to make reasonable accommodations for those people and find someone who will issue them.
    They still have the free exercise of their religion....no one is preventing them from going to church.

    Are you seriously arguing that they can say that since their religion teaches them that races should not mix...they could deny an inter-racial couple a licensed based on their bigotry...um....I mean "religion"?

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    The suggestion of lawsuits came from AG Paxton. He told employees they can refuse to issue licenses and if later lawsuits occurred there would be a legal to team to defend them. The Attorney General spoke about this. Religious views would not be an excuse for doing your job. Not doing the job you were hired for by non issuance of a license might be illegal Paxton must think.
    It's really simple. Would it be okay for someone at the DMV to claim a religious exemption to having to issue a license to a woman, so long as someone else was available to wait on any woman who came through the DMV? What about a DMV person refusing to issue a driver's license to any Muslim or Mexican? Would that be legally okay so long as someone else was available (and there is always someone else in every DMV I've ever been in) to deal with those particular types of people?
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Who says the religious exemption has to be about the sexes of the couple? And who says they would have to be the same? Maybe one objects to their religion or relative religions, one objects to their being an interracial couple, and the other objects to their different socio-economic classes getting married. All of these things can be and are religious objections from one group or another.
    I suppose it's up to the office to make sure that they are able to issue licenses to these groups.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by keymanjim View Post
    I'm paying too much as it is. Now, I'll probably have to pay to clean up after the hands on segment of gay studies is finished.
    Too late, by then they'll all be indoctrinated

    You may as well give in and partake in some gay studies yourself. I don't charge *quite* as much as your school tax...

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    No it's not the "not their job part," it's contempt of the supreme court. They will most definitely be sued and arrested, and i doubt any clerk is going to take that chance just because some politician wants media attention

    They aren't going to stop gay couples in Texas from marrying anyway - all they need for that is one clerk somewhere - so it's all delusional
    Yes and I agree this will not work but it is a thread and has interest. People are still fighting as foolish as it may be.
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