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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    read the constitution. the SCOTUS has ruled time and time again that companies and governments have to make reasonable accommodations to religious objections or practices. they have also ruled that just because you are in a public setting that you lose your 1st amendment and constitutional rights.
    the constitution overrides any local law or your opinion.

    there is nothing that anyone can do to this people for religiously objecting to handing out marriage licenses. to fire them over their objection is religious discrimination which
    you know is against the law.

    you might want to take a look at your own argument vs the constitution.
    Of course there is. The clerks are agents of government and are requiring applicants for a license pass an arbitrary religious test to qualify for a license. THAT is exactly what the First Amendment prohibits.

    You've got the 1st Amendment's intent backwards, that it is intended to protect the right of a government agent TO discriminate for arbitrary religious reasons.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Bull****, this could've been accomplished years ago by civil unions. It was not necessary to redefine marriage.
    If you would be on the side of something called a civil union what is the difference if it is called marriage? No religion does not own marriage there have been marriages outside of religion for ages. So religion does not own the word or the idea.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    That homosexuality is found in nature is a side issue. Rape is found in nature, so is child murder, murder of other animal's children (rountinely!), incredible cruelty, etc. The cases centered on the civil and human rights of consenting adults in modern society.



    Goodness, you start with a false premise and the argument deteriorates from there.
    Tell us how wrong I am when your teen aged son comes home with his new husband.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by keymanjim View Post
    Tell us how wrong I am when your teen aged son comes home with his new husband.
    What would be wrong with that? If I had a teenaged son and he came home with his husband they would be welcomed with open arms. They would not be hated and shunned as does happen. The couple would be invited to dine. Only hateful parents with no regard for their children would treat their son any differently than they did before. Though gay he is still their son and now he is wed.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    What would be wrong with that? If I had a teenaged son and he came home with his husband they would be welcomed with open arms. They would not be hated and shunned as does happen. The couple would be invited to dine. Only hateful parents with no regard for their children would treat their son any differently than they did before. Though gay he is still their son and now he is wed.
    So, you'd be perfectly fine with your 11 year old son getting buggered by some 50 year old man?
    That's great. I'm going to get a few 12 year old Asian girls imported to be my wives.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by keymanjim View Post
    Tell us how wrong I am when your teen aged son comes home with his new husband.
    If he's 18 and his husband 18, not a lot I can do about it. No more than if his wife was 18. Not sure what your point is.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by keymanjim View Post
    So, you'd be perfectly fine with your 11 year old son getting buggered by some 50 year old man?
    That's great. I'm going to get a few 12 year old Asian girls imported to be my wives.
    LOL, you're the one arguing for lower ages of consent, not anyone else that I've seen.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by keymanjim View Post
    Tell us how wrong I am when your teen aged son comes home with his new husband.
    Wouldn't bother me in the least, except I have daughters, but if either of them came home with a new wife, that's fine with me, so long as they're happy. The question is, why does it bother you?
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Of course there is. The clerks are agents of government and are requiring applicants for a license pass an arbitrary religious test to qualify for a license. THAT is exactly what the First Amendment prohibits.
    them not handing someone a marriage license does not prohibit that. the government office will have to find someone that will hand it to them.

    You've got the 1st Amendment's intent backwards, that it is intended to protect the right of a government agent TO discriminate for arbitrary religious reasons.
    You are 100% wrong. the first amendment is their specifically to protect peoples religious views and their religious reason.
    you evidently haven't read the 1st amendment.

    it isn't arbitrary religious reasons at all.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    If he's 18 and his husband 18, not a lot I can do about it. No more than if his wife was 18. Not sure what your point is.
    He's not. He's 11 and his husband is 50. And, thanks to the supreme court, their marriage is legal.
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