I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang
My mind and my heart are saying I'm in my twenties. My body is pointing at my mind and heart and laughing its ass off. ~ Kal'Stang
Edit: In many regards, this is no different from the ACA ruling. The court said that people are entitled to the ACA subsidies regardless of where they live and the federal government can provide them - it didn't say the states had to expand their services to accommodate them.
Last edited by CanadaJohn; 06-29-15 at 09:10 AM.
A Canadian conservative is one who believes in limited government and that the government should stay out of our wallets and out of our bedrooms.
Do you really think all the people who disliked gays a few days ago are all of a sudden converted to loving them because of this decision? It didn't change peoples mind and the disdain (i'll use this word) is still very present.
The flame that is between us could set every soul on fire. I would love to take that heat and let's fill the whole world with desire.
Sophie B. Hawkins
But this issue has been more than just equality in entering into a contractual agreement, and I think that, along with some other in your face issues, is where the emotions get their energy.
As to the Church's, there is already a Supreme Court case that may form the basis of forcing Churches to perform marriage ceremonies that are in direct conflict of their faith.
You may want to familiarize yourself with the Bob Jones University case, and the resulting loss of tax status.
Nothing is impossible, for what seemed impossible not long ago, has become law.
To her Wall Street owners: Hillary Clinton: “But if everybody's watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. so, you need both a public and a private position.” - Hillary Clinton: "I'm kind of far removed from the struggles of the Middle Class"
"I believe in a Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."
--Albert Einstein, 1929
Quo usque tandem abutere, Trump, patientia nostra?
"If I take death into my life, acknowledge it, and face it squarely, I will free myself from the anxiety of death and the pettiness of life - and only then will I be free to become myself." ~ Martin Heidegger
The 10th Amendment means nothing if we're just going to use the 9th Amendment to make up anything we want and pretend it's already in the Constitution.
The way you use the 9th Amendment, the federal government owes me 10,000 elephants because the Constitution says so. It doesn't, but then it doesn't say any of this other bull**** either, so where are my damn elephants?
The silliness of this thread is astounding. Can a Muslim clerk deny a marriage to a Christian/Jewish hetero couple because his religious beliefs strictly stand against interfaith marriages? Of course not. Could a Mormon working for the US government, decide to give marriage licenses depending on a person's skin color? No? Well there is your answer. No, this is not the giant constitutional crisis that homophobes and some of SSM's lip service providers on the right wish it was.
I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK
Of course not.
The better answer is to completely detach the religious and the governmental definitions of marriage. If a Christian couple wishes to be married in the church, that's fine, but it holds no governmental benefits until they do it before a judge and the judge cannot hold the marriage ceremony within X feet of a church. This way, there is no discrimination under the law. But, again, this will likely inconvenience and anger Christians, because they sure as hell don't deserve to have to work for their benefits...like they demand of homosexuals...
I suspect if Christians were to be denied a license to marry simply because they are Christian, they would be outraged (as well they should be, even though religious views are far more of a choice than sexuality).