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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So now a public official can just ignore laws they do not like and argue it offends their religious sensibilities to justify not carrying it out? Interesting path you have chosen Texas.
    I think AG Paxton is making a very bad call.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    We all know this is just a death rattle. The issue has been decided. There is no hope for this avenue of argument. This is over.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Marijuana legislation is next, just wait and see. You will have some other thing to bitch about, while we toke away and laugh at you. We will even be able to laugh at you at a gay friends wedding while eating a cake baked by a bigot.
    Ummm...hello, libertarian here. We don't really approve of vices being crimes. Read "Vices Are Not Crimes" to learn why.

    Who do you think has been against drug laws since the beginning? Yeah, libertarians. Thanks for stealing our position and figuring out a way to use it to get tax revenue.

    Oh and btw, who was for gay marriage first? Yup, libertarians. Liberals are the slow kid on the block that thinks he's a genius.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Since when was refusing to do your job because of your religious beliefs acceptable?
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    The authority of the states and the authority of the people of each state to set policy within their state on those matters in which the U.S. Constitution are silent, per the 10th Amendment, has absolutely been violated.
    Incorrect. The first amendment granting freedom of religion also grants people the freedom FROM religion. The 14th amendment also guarantees equal protection under the law, so you can not discriminate against minority groups you don't like. A state can not enforce christian religious law and you can't deny rights to minority groups based on popular opinion.

    Would it be kosher with everyone if 51% of a state decided christians shouldn't be allowed to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Now we get to see if a SCOTUS decision to expand one group's rights actually trumps an enumerated right that has been protected since the 1st amendment was created. This is when things get interesting.
    Ah yes, "If I can't force my religious laws on minority groups I find icky, my rights are being violated." Such theatrical children.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Paxton: State workers can deny licenses to same-sex couples

    Here we go the first actual decent from the Joy. I think this is doomed before it starts. There is no end to hate and judgement IMO. Thoughts.
    Does that mean states can start ignoring citizens united? Or call some other conservative victory in front of the ultimate judges of legality, "something I morally/religiously object to" and refuse to do that too? How about catholics refusing to make marriage licenses for baptists or presbyterians?

    Or Jewish state workers deny muslims their marriage license or the other way around? Hey, I am an atheist, could I "object on moral-religious grounds" to give wedding licenses to anybody who is religious?

    It's just a wedding license, I think this is just petty, childish and ultimately behavior that is going to achieve absolutely nothing. It just shows this Paxton is a sore loser who thinks he can pick and choose which supreme court rulings he has to follow.
    toward that end the tactics and the strategies that people resort to in carrying out this ideologically driven agenda of what they call “pro-life” which is really pro-fetus does not have anything to do with the lives of babies after they’re born or the women who bear them.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Now we get to see if a SCOTUS decision to expand one group's rights actually trumps an enumerated right that has been protected since the 1st amendment was created. This is when things get interesting.
    I so agree with that last part. This isn't really over because there appears to be some very blurry lines.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    The comedy is we allow government in our relationships. This is some old tyranny BS left over from monarchies. There is no need for government to be involved with marriage or the ability to hand out a license for said marriage.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Does that mean states can start ignoring citizens united? Or call some other conservative victory in front of the ultimate judges of legality, "something I morally/religiously object to" and refuse to do that too? How about catholics refusing to make marriage licenses for baptists or presbyterians?

    Or Jewish state workers deny muslims their marriage license or the other way around? Hey, I am an atheist, could I "object on moral-religious grounds" to give wedding licenses to anybody who is religious?

    It's just a wedding license, I think this is just petty, childish and ultimately behavior that is going to achieve absolutely nothing. It just shows this Paxton is a sore loser who thinks he can pick and choose which supreme court rulings he has to follow.
    He knows better, he's just a right wing politician pandering to the bigot vote.

    And it is childish. Woe is them, they are the victims.... boo hooo.... cue world's smallest violins...

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I so agree with that last part. This isn't really over because there appears to be some very blurry lines.
    Not sure they're all that blurry. Objections to interracial marriage were also couched in religious terms, and I don't think anyone would contend clerks in Texas, acting as agents of the state or local government, have a religious "right" acting on behalf of the state to deny e.g. Clarence and Virginia Thomas a license.

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