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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't see why people wouldn't want that. They can set the terms of the contract and never have to worry about terms that might be added in the future they don't agree with or aren't allowed to be opted out of in pre-nup. Sure, it's more expensive, but I think the upside of taking that path far outweighs that.
    It has worked for me in a poly relationship with 5 women. It cost nut has done all we needed. Taxation of course does not recognize our legal household but one can't have everything. lol
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Actually you are not only reading selectively, but misinterpreting what you are reading.
    If I was feeling charitable at best, that would be what you are doing.

    I am aware that you are blinded by your personal prejudices, but the SCOTUS decision is Constitutionally sound.
    What "personal prejudices" could you be referring to?

    It is assuredly not sound, which is the entire reason for my frustration with this absurd ruling.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    In other words, "you veel comply, or else you veel suffer ze consequences". First Amendment be damned. Zeig Heil!
    The First Amendment protects you from being targeted for your religious views or religion in general, and protects you from being punished or persecuted for having those specific views. It does not protect you from punishment when your religious views come into conflict with a neutral rule or law. You should not be allowed to not do your job just because your religion disapproves of certain people. That is not what the First Amendment, right to religious freedom was meant for or says.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The First Amendment protects you from being targeted for your religious views or religion in general, and protects you from being punished or persecuted for having those specific views. It does not protect you from punishment when your religious views come into conflict with a neutral rule or law. You should not be allowed to not do your job just because your religion disapproves of certain people. That is not what the First Amendment, right to religious freedom was meant for or says.
    The first does not allow you to break the law in the name of religion. I can't imagine people thinking it would offer such a deal.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    that judge can do what he wants. the constitution says that the government cannot force them or discriminate against their religious views.
    the state has to make reasonable accommodations. the SCOTUS has ruled on this time and time again.

    that is that guy and his choice. you can't force others to do it based on the constitution.
    Nope. Read the link. He was told he was going to be sued (which they did file a case, and dropped it after he resigned) and he was going to lose, so he better resign.

    There is no way to believe that the First Amendment protects any of these people from not doing their job just because they feel they have a religious objection to it. Find another job or deal with it. There is no excuse for using religion to not do your job, in accordance with the law. And their job is to issue marriage licenses or perform legal marriages for the state.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The First Amendment protects you from being targeted for your religious views or religion in general, and protects you from being punished or persecuted for having those specific views. It does not protect you from punishment when your religious views come into conflict with a neutral rule or law. You should not be allowed to not do your job just because your religion disapproves of certain people. That is not what the First Amendment, right to religious freedom was meant for or says.
    No man really, my religion requires that I not do any work, so I can stop doing my job tomorrow and my boss still has to pay me because MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The target of the lawsuit would be the government, not the employee.
    Actually, it would likely include both given the AG and governor (I think) encouraging them to do this but informing them that they would likely be sued for doing so.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Like how people got over marijuana being made illegal. Oh wait..
    Marijuana legislation is next, just wait and see. You will have some other thing to bitch about, while we toke away and laugh at you. We will even be able to laugh at you at a gay friends wedding while eating a cake baked by a bigot.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    So now a public official can just ignore laws they do not like and argue it offends their religious sensibilities to justify not carrying it out? Interesting path you have chosen Texas.

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    Re: Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Marijuana legislation is next, just wait and see. You will have some other thing to bitch about, while we toke away and laugh at you. We will even be able to laugh at you at a gay friends wedding while eating a cake baked by a bigot.
    The next issue will be polygamy. The whole place would go up for grabs. Baking cakes with room for 3, 4, 5, 6, figures on top oh may. There would be a frenzy to rent wedding halls for six sets of families and friends.
    The flame that is between us could set every soul on fire. I would love to take that heat and let's fill the whole world with desire.
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